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Old 05-10-2008, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Thought it was morals not wisdom.
Not following? What was morals?

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:43 PM
 
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Yes this book basically spells out that there is scientific evidence of a God. The author is a leading scientist for our government. In ways it's a bit hard for me to understand because I'm into flowers, peace and love However I think you would find it a very interesting read. The author is even a Christian, whatever that means. I consider myself a Christian, but some people seem to think otherwise...
You can't scientifically prove the supernatural its impossible.

And the top leading scientist are in underground military bases trust me
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Lambs Book of Life
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Obviously you didn't check the link...They were all hard core atheists till death.

Famous Atheists,
I didn't check the link, you're right. I didn't feel the need to because I've read the books and family accounts that Einstein did indeed accept Christ before he died. Of this I'm certain. I gave the others the benefit of the doubt. My mistake.

If the others on that list did indeed die as atheists, then Einstein's name is mistakenly on that list.
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Lambs Book of Life
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You can't scientifically prove the supernatural its impossible.
Thus the reason you can't prove OR DISPROVE God.

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And the top leading scientist are in underground military bases trust me
If they are how would you know about it? The government and top scientists have all confided this to you? None of these discussions have been about taking anyone's word for anything, so I would submit the question you've asked Christians here: Prove it. After all, you won't accept anyone saying, "God is real. Trust me." "Trust me" is not a luxury you've earned yet.
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Earth
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trust me
Wouldn't that be blind faith?
I have no idea who you are and while I respect you views, I don't agree with them, nor do you need me to.
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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That's pretty interesting. Creationism involves the intervention of a supernatural being; and science is primarily concerned with tangible and physical things. But Creationism isn't wholly unscientific. And science is only as unbiased as the person whose participating in the experiments and research.

Some of the greatest names in science history were staunch creationists. (Kelvin, Maxwell and Pascal are three of them.) Their belief in God is what led them to ask, "How did God do it?"
Where the heck are you getting your information? I researched all three of these scientists, and the were not creationists.

For after all what is man in nature? A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either. The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret. He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed. ” Blaise Pascal,

Lord Kelvin ultimately settled on an estimate that the Earth was 20-40 million years old.
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:15 PM
 
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Wouldn't that be blind faith?
I have no idea who you are and while I respect you views, I don't agree with them, nor do you need me to.
probley shouldn't have said trust me but i said that mocking you guys and blind faith. (should have made that more clear)

However worlds top scientist do work for the goverment or a goverment. there is a program to recruit them. Wondering why 50% of our tax dollars go to the military. Its to fund these scientist brilliant ideas.

Give an example the top fighter of the world Raptor was built in 1991. and was thought up durning the cold war. I think we have a new plane now.

The goverment has built a tank that can be invisble and exto skeleton. Military rule of thumb never show your hand.
(Trust me) we have more stuff we wont see untill 10 year or more.
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in the middle
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Obviously you didn't check the link...They were all hard core atheists till death.

Famous Atheists,
They may have died atheists, but I can guarantee they're not atheists now .
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:24 PM
 
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They may have died atheists, but I can guarantee they're not atheists now .
You mean after death they realized Allah was the one true God?
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:31 PM
 
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Yes this book basically spells out that there is scientific evidence of a God. The author is a leading scientist for our government. In ways it's a bit hard for me to understand because I'm into flowers, peace and love However I think you would find it a very interesting read. The author is even a Christian, whatever that means. I consider myself a Christian, but some people seem to think otherwise...
So. Carl Sagan was a well know scientist and and atheist
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