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Well I don't believe there is a relationship. Pure communism means everything is owned and controlled by the state including the media. The individual has no rights of ownership of land or business, and very few other rights. Atheism simply means a non belief in a higher power.
Well, this is your opinion, but you could be wrong. Most people are some of the time.
Well, this is your opinion, but you could be wrong. Most people are some of the time.
Actually, he provided an accurate definition of atheism and communism. And no, they are in no way connected. That's like me saying Protestants are all KKK members.
Then this discussion should not interest you. Some of us are still seeking knowledge.
I haven't seen this exhibited in any of your responses, claims that atheists=communists, that we are somehow lesser than the good christians, and obviously EVIL. Open minded, hardly.
Although, Germany was mostly Christian the Nazi leadership was not. There are two books that explain the beliefs of the Nazi leadership. "Nazi Occultism" and "The Deathshead". (I can't remember the authors.)
I understand that. But, I was referring to Hitler and not the rest of the Nazi German leadership (who did have some "Christians" in there too). The point I was making is that there is suggestible evidence to say that Hitler believed in the Christian God. That would, in my opinion, make him a Christian.
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I did not say create. A person's idealogy and philosophy always effect every thought, and decision that person makes in life. So naturally their belief system had a great impact on the communist idealogy.
I think you misunderstand non-belief. The only predication that atheism has is a disbelief in a deity. It doesn't seek to define laws, morals, political ventures or anything else. It's simply a non-belief. What people choose to do "extra-curricularly" is merely a tenant of their own discretion. So, it is quite possible that horrendous people will do things if they are Atheists but they are not doing it because of some sort of Atheist philosophy. There is no Atheist philosophy (to include Communism).
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This first rule of propaganda is the bigger the lie, the easier people believe it.
Perhaps you should be skeptical of the propaganda you've been hearing...
I haven't seen this exhibited in any of your responses, claims that atheists=communists, that we are somehow lesser than the good christians, and obviously EVIL. Open minded, hardly.
You keep saying that I say atheists=communists.
This is not correct. My point is atheism was a great influence on the communist theology. That does not mean they are one and the same.
I understand that. But, I was referring to Hitler and not the rest of the Nazi German leadership (who did have some "Christians" in there too). The point I was making is that there is suggestible evidence to say that Hitler believed in the Christian God. That would, in my opinion, make him a Christian.
Again, if you read the books I suggeted you will find that Hitler was an occultist. You say there is suggestible evidence. What is it? I think you are trying to make a connection that does not exist.
I think you misunderstand non-belief. The only predication that atheism has is a disbelief in a deity. It doesn't seek to define laws, morals, political ventures or anything else. It's simply a non-belief. What people choose to do "extra-curricularly" is merely a tenant of their own discretion. So, it is quite possible that horrendous people will do things if they are Atheists but they are not doing it because of some sort of Atheist philosophy. There is no Atheist philosophy (to include Communism).
I agree with your definition of Atheism. However, I do not believe you can divorce your belief system from the decisions that you make. That seems intellectually dishonest to me. I am not making a personal attack on you or anyone else. I am trying to show cause and effect. While you may not be able to understand what I am saying, there may be some who will.
Perhaps you should be skeptical of the propaganda you've been hearing...
I think you could appy this statement to yourself. I think we should all be skeptical when searching for the truth.
Communism and atheism are completely different concepts.. may I suggest a dictionary?
I see you have not read all my posts.
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