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View Poll Results: Do you think you will go to heaven or hell?
Heaven 30 81.08%
Hell 7 18.92%
Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-01-2021, 10:09 AM
 
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An honest answer, the only kind worth giving, is no i could not worship a God that is willing to punish for ethernity Jews and Muslims for believing in him but not in Jesus. Or for being the wrong kind of Christian.

Also i do not understand the concept of worshipping your God for ethernity. Does it mean that is all you do?

I would not pretend to believe just to go to Heaven and if you do not believe why would you WANT to worship for ethernity. And does it matter what I want to your God? I dont understand why you would ask such a question.
You think it's wrong that God would not welcome people that don't love him into his heaven. Then you go on to say that you wouldn't want to worship him.

I find that interesting. If God is God and he can do what he wants with his creation, and he decides who is in Heaven, why do you fault him for not including those that hate him?
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Old 09-01-2021, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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You think it's wrong that God would not welcome people that don't love him into his heaven. Then you go on to say that you wouldn't want to worship him.

I find that interesting. If God is God and he can do what he wants with his creation, and he decides who is in Heaven, why do you fault him for not including those that hate him?
I thought your god created all people. Or did some god over in the next county create Buddhists, Muslims, etc.? And by the way, maybe god sees those who don't believe in this lifetime as prodigal sons in another lifetime. Let's see...where did that idea come from? Oh yeah...the bible.

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Old 09-01-2021, 10:51 AM
 
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My belief is since we are energy and all connected to the Source of life, I believe we will continue to exist in another form unknown to any of us. So neither heaven nor hell for me.
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Old 09-01-2021, 11:01 AM
 
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Either nothing happens or we are connected in some manner to this universe and return to our base state. There is no such thing as heaven and hell.

As Stephon Alexander postulates in relation to Quantum Field Theory: Consider electrons and a star millions of light years away from earth, while there are many electron particles, there is only one electron field that they are born from. Those electrons and the electrons that are in you and me were created as quantum excitations from the same universal electron field in the early universe. In fact every other particle including quarks and neutrinos in the universe (quanta)that emerged from their corresponding field vibrations. It's in this Suzuki sense that we are tethered to the fundamental fabric of the universe.
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Old 09-01-2021, 11:04 AM
 
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My belief is since we are energy and all connected to the Source of life, I believe we will continue to exist in another form unknown to any of us. So neither heaven nor hell for me.
Same here, we are like the water droplet leaving the stream and feeling like we are separate from the universe. Before we are born and after we die we are part of the stream.
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Old 09-01-2021, 11:16 AM
 
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My belief is since we are energy and all connected to the Source of life, I believe we will continue to exist in another form unknown to any of us. So neither heaven nor hell for me.
You said “unknown” to us.
But then how do you KNOW there is no Heaven or Hell?

What if that “unknown” state of existence is some sort of a consciousness in bliss or in misery?

The truth is, we don’t really know whether Heaven/hell exists or not - so technically we cannot reject their existence.
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Old 09-01-2021, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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The discussions of energy and matter are certainly relevant. Our eyes and brains will look at a table or a chair or an animal, and see objects appearing quite different. But deep down, they all consist of matter and energy, in even in dynamic movement. It really is helpful not to rely on what signals our eyes are sending us, but to sense what's really going on a deeper level, and what unites not only us but the entire universe.
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Old 09-01-2021, 11:30 AM
 
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You said “unknown” to us.
But then how do you KNOW there is no Heaven or Hell?

What if that “unknown” state of existence is some sort of a consciousness in bliss or in misery?

The truth is, we don’t really know whether Heaven/hell exists or not - so technically we cannot reject their existence.
Their existence is based on religion. And we know religion is baloney.
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Old 09-01-2021, 12:15 PM
 
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I thought your god created all people. Or did some god over in the next county create Buddhists, Muslims, etc.? And by the way, maybe god sees those who don't believe in this lifetime as prodigal sons in another lifetime. Let's see...where did that idea come from? Oh yeah...the bible.
All this is a smokescreen to keep from answering the simple question.

Why do you believe God should welcome those into his heaven that don't want to be there? And how is that a good thing if you're forced to worship him for all eternity?
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Old 09-01-2021, 12:21 PM
 
Location: USA
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Hello!

Based off your deeds and religiousness, do you think you will go to heaven or hell? Of course nobody knows this answer for sure, but I thought it would be a fun poll!
There is a third option you see. We will simply return to non existence.
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