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06-10-2008, 03:07 PM
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How did god come into existence?
The fundamental equation in any religion or belief system is faith in a god or higher power. My question is, who created god? We know that something can't exist from nothing, so where exactly did this "man in the sky" come from?
Despite being a very simple question, and one which I'm sure many of you have considered, I realize it's probably difficult for most believers to truly comprehend.
How did god come into existence?
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06-10-2008, 03:10 PM
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Assuming god exists, we don't know though many people say she has always existed
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06-10-2008, 03:15 PM
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Location: Pleasant Shade Tn
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'From everlasting to everlasting'. So God is the exception to the rule.
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06-10-2008, 03:18 PM
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Location: Somewhere in the middle
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Originally Posted by sophix
The fundamental equation in any religion or belief system is faith in a god or higher power. My question is, who created god? We know that something can't exist from nothing, so where exactly did this "man in the sky" come from?
Despite being a very simple question, and one which I'm sure many of you have considered, I realize it's probably difficult for most believers to truly comprehend.
How did god come into existence?
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God has always existed. I believe that He exists outside of time and space. It is true that our finite minds cannot comprehend this, nevertheless this is what I believe.
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06-10-2008, 03:35 PM
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Location: Hot-Houston Texas
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God told Moses in Exodus 3:14 I am the one who always is. I believe God always has been and will always be, He has no beginning and no end.
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06-10-2008, 03:44 PM
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Location: NW Arkansas
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It is no harder for me to believe that God has always been, as it is to realize that outer space can never end ! Think about it ! Or maybe you shouldn't ....It can blow your mind !
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06-10-2008, 04:32 PM
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Location: Whoville....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sophix
The fundamental equation in any religion or belief system is faith in a god or higher power. My question is, who created god? We know that something can't exist from nothing, so where exactly did this "man in the sky" come from?
Despite being a very simple question, and one which I'm sure many of you have considered, I realize it's probably difficult for most believers to truly comprehend.
How did god come into existence?
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Ah, the great mystery. How did the first of anything come into existence? No matter what you believe, you believe that either A) something poofed into existence out of nothing with no cause all on it's own or B) something always existed as illogical as that sounds.
I look at it this way. In the rules of this universe, something always existing doesn't make sense but it could in another universe with different rules. I figure when this universe was created (or poofed, take your pick) the first thing that had to happen is the rules were written. This universe follows those rules. The rules of this universe say that things don't poof out of nothing for no reason (now it is entirely possible that all of the matter and anti matter in this universe adds up to nothing but the rules here say that something can't poof from nothing without something that preexisted the nothing causing it (call that God if you will)).
M theory (a physics theory for those not familiar) speculates that our universe was created when two other universes collided. Who knows but it does appear that something outside of this universe existed before this universe and had something to do with all of this happening.
No matter what you believe, you have to come to a point of accepting that something poofed from nothing, which only happens in this universe if something causes that, so something had to have been here before. You can't avoid it. I, personally, find it easier to believe that that something is a spirit being that isn't held to the rules of this universe. You can believe it was a rock if you like (as in a rock hitting class and all of this is the spider web cracks) but then where did the rock come from or where did God come from? You'll always end up asking where something came from. So pick the something you'll believe was always here because that's where you're going to end up.
When I look around me at the way things fit together, I believe it is God. I don't find God in the bible. I find him in science. In the laws that were laid down when this universe was made and at how the very existence of some of those things defies those laws. We'll never know all the answers but, personally, I believe the study of science is the study of God's laws for this universe. I love it. When I see a honey bee pollinate a flower, I think to myself, did God tell the flower there would be a bee first or did he tell the bee there'd be a flower? That two things, codependent for survival, just happened to evolve at the same time to need each other is just mindboggling.
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06-10-2008, 05:13 PM
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Location: Los Angeles Area
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as it is to realize that outer space can never end !
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The universe is finite...so it does in a sense end. Now you'll unlikely to hit a wall, rather you'll travel in a straight line and sooner or later end up where you started.
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06-10-2008, 05:43 PM
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Location: NW Arkansas
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Originally Posted by Humanoid
The universe is finite...so it does in a sense end. Now you'll unlikely to hit a wall, rather you'll travel in a straight line and sooner or later end up where you started.
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I'm sorry, that is too deep for me to comprehend....no pun tended! 
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06-10-2008, 05:52 PM
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I'm sorry, that is too deep for me to comprehend....no pun tended! 
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1.There are paradoxes when we assume an infinite universe.
2.If you keep traveling straight west from London, eventually you'll arrive again in london. 4-D space is like this.
The universe is big(were not sue just how big) but not THAT big.
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