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Old 07-16-2008, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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The reason the figurines exhibit the form of dinosaurs is because they are dinosaurs that could only of been made by men who had actually saw them. And that is why some of the details of the figurine dinosaurs were so accurte, such as the spines which were not know to exist back in the 1940's. And since dinosaurs existed thousands of years ago and not millions, that is why we are finding soft tissue and flexible cells in dinosaur bones today. Also, the Bible describes Dinosaurs and states that they had scales for skin. Only recently have they discovered a mummified dinosaur and as it turned out it had scales for skin just as the Bible described. Early art shows man co-existed with dinosaurs. There is ample evidence out there, but the Theory of Evolution does not agree with that evidence. Evolution is a big industy, yet it has always lacked the evidence that would make it believable. And when evidence surfaces that refutes Evolution, that evidence is ignored or shelved.
Nowhere does the bible describe dinosaurs. You'd have to really twist the words to make it fit your interpretation. Where is this magical evidence, not figurines, art doodles, the evidence is in fossils. And where are these credible sources, definitely not objective. Also, what possible reason would scientists have for ignoring evidence that refutes Evolution, you sound like a follower of pseudoscience. If evidence that refuted evolution were found, then scientists would make just as much money as they do now.
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Old 07-16-2008, 01:31 PM
 
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You are right on the carbon-14. It was actually Thermoluminescence that was used on the El Toro Mountain figurines. Thermoluminescence is a common tool for dating fired historical materials. Pottery, ect.
still hate to ask a dumb question..

but in the link you provided earlier World Site of Dinosaur Figurines of Mexico: evidence that dinosaurs and humans coexisted! it doesn't mention Thermoluminescence. It mentions radio carbon dating.

Am I missing something?
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Old 07-16-2008, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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About those figurines....


CH710.2: Acambaro dinosaur figurines

And just for further measure...

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH710.html
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Old 07-16-2008, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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If any human being had been alive during the age of dinosaurs and had created artwork I don't think it would have been a peaceful setting like cattle in a field, a more accurate depiction would be an animal like a raptor ripping people to shreds. The fact of the matter is that man wouldn't have stood a chance against predatory dinosaurs and if we would have existed during that era we would most likely have become extinct before they did.
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Old 07-16-2008, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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If any human being had been alive during the age of dinosaurs and had created artwork I don't think it would have been a peaceful setting like cattle in a field, a more accurate depiction would be an animal like a raptor ripping people to shreds. The fact of the matter is that man wouldn't have stood a chance against predatory dinosaurs and if we would have existed during that era we would most likely have become extinct before they did.
Are you nuts, man? Didn't you ever see The Flintstones? "Dr." Carl Baugh had a video of The Flinstones showing in his creation museum. He actually said that it was probably a very close representation of how man and dinosaurs lived and interacted together.
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Are you nuts, man? Didn't you ever see The Flintstones? "Dr." Carl Baugh had a video of The Flinstones showing in his creation museum. He actually said that it was probably a very close representation of how man and dinosaurs lived and interacted together.
NO! You've got to be kidding me!?! Sometimes I think the Creationist movement is sitting around laughing about all the ridiculous things they get people to believe. I could see Ken Hamm sitting in his house drinking with all of his other buddies plotting ridiculous things to come up with just to see how far they can take it. I'm sure they all got a good laugh out of the Flintstones thing. They're probably still roaring about that one in private.
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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NO! You've got to be kidding me!?! Sometimes I think the Creationist movement is sitting around laughing about all the ridiculous things they get people to believe. I could see Ken Hamm sitting in his house drinking with all of his other buddies plotting ridiculous things to come up with just to see how far they can take it. I'm sure they all got a good laugh out of the Flintstones thing. They're probably still roaring about that one in private.
That's right. Especially because, as we all know, Land of the Lost was much closer to how it really was. Dinosaur garbage disposall - Pshaw, as if!!
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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And this is the reason the Bible tells us the natural man would not understand the things of the spirit, because they are spiritually discerned.
The Bible is very clear that Gods days are not 24 hour days, but God's days are 1,000 years long. When God describes His works, and His days you are in error if you believe they are only 24 hours. The Bible would not be so specific about the lengths of Gods days, if it had no intentions of us understanding that. When God speaks of man and his time we can understand it is 24 hour days.
It's totally arbitrary to say that natural man can't understand 'things of the spirit.' Do you realize that many atheists and agnostics often come from a Christian or other religious background.

This is just a way to try and reconcile the age of the earth. Exodus 20:8-11 talks about how people are supposed to keep the sabbath day because Jehovah made the world in 6 days then rested on the seventh, which is what the Sabbath Day was actually suppose to be commemorating, the supposed last day of Creation when 'god' rested.

http://www.christiancourier.com/arti...l-days-or-ages
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:08 AM
 
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And this is the reason the Bible tells us the natural man would not understand the things of the spirit, because they are spiritually discerned.
The Bible is very clear that Gods days are not 24 hour days, but God's days are 1,000 years long. When God describes His works, and His days you are in error if you believe they are only 24 hours. The Bible would not be so specific about the lengths of Gods days, if it had no intentions of us understanding that. When God speaks of man and his time we can understand it is 24 hour days.
I think it would be more reasonable to say that God is not affected by time at all. People like to rip the first part of that passage out and forget the second part.
To god a day is as a thousand years ..... Then people stop right there, they dont finish it.. which is as a thousand years is a day .


Beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day” (2 Peter 3:8)

It is quite clear that this statement was made to indicate that minutes, hours, days, years, mean nothing to god. Its something we are bound by, which is time. But to god, it all means nothing, and or the same thing. There is no differece to him.

Which this verse actually makes a good argument for how god could exist, being the Infinite Cause of the universe. The universe is the effect, god was the cause.
How long has god been around ? Always.. Infinite, and our minds cant grasp that concept, because we try to compare infinity with our small minds, and try to apply it with the boundaries of time.
You cant do that, nor can you comprehend what eternity is like. I like to think infinite is more along the lines of a , moment that has no boundaries. We are all living in this moment, There is no such thing as time, its something we are bound by yes, God made time, the days, the years..
When you think about it , what is a day really ? A thing we measure by the revolution of the earth according to the sun. A year, by how the earth revolves around the sun. This is how we view time. That means nothing to god. He is not bound by it, its laws do not apply to him. He is outside of the box so to say.

So remember when someone tries to toss that a day is as a thousand years to god, make sure to set them straight and read the reast of the passage in its context, and the other refrences to it in the bible.
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Old 07-19-2008, 06:37 AM
 
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still hate to ask a dumb question..

but in the link you provided earlier World Site of Dinosaur Figurines of Mexico: evidence that dinosaurs and humans coexisted! it doesn't mention Thermoluminescence. It mentions radio carbon dating.

Am I missing something?
World Site of Dinosaur Figurines of Mexico: evidence that dinosaurs and humans coexisted!
At the bottom of page 10 it reads. "When the lab at the University of Pennsylvania found out that dinosaurs were part of the collection, they retracted their thermoluminescent.
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