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Old 01-01-2009, 08:42 AM
 
Location: where i belong
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There are historical accounts of children under demonic influnce. To suggest this is not the case, will require you to ignore the facts. Again, demons are not the cause of (ALL) sickness. I dont know were people come up with that belief. They are the cause of some sickness, but this is rare.

You are referring to interpretations of "experts" throughout history. Today's expertise is prone to dismiss such "accounts" altogether, suppress a better interpretation and hence understanding with market compatible medication .....

Deep thinkers, where art thou?

 
Old 01-01-2009, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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Default The only demon is a weak mind!

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There are historical accounts of children under demonic influnce. To suggest this is not the case, will require you to ignore the facts. Again, demons are not the cause of (ALL) sickness. I dont know were people come up with that belief. They are the cause of some sickness, but this is rare.
When you say "Historical Accounts", by which part of the history are you refering too? If by this your saying, in the days of the Bible or the dark ages, then I question the truth in it. I quess its because I'm one of those type of people that when it comes to demons, I'm a see it to believe it type. The human brain/mind is a vast space that is yet to be completely explored and understood, truly the last frontier.

I think the biggest reason I don't believe in the demon thing is because my Mother lived with a brain tumor for 38 years. And it wasn't a preacher praying to God to take it out "Poof its gone". But, by the hands of two skilled surgeons that helped her, the same two sergeons that God gave the wonderful gift of healing to. She lived with the remaining part of the tumor unitl her passing two years ago, and during that time she was marked as making medical history for the size of the tumor. My Mother had a strangth and fighting spirit in her that can't be and never will be touch by most humans. To include myself.

So, I'm sorry if I sound a little pessimistic on the matter of "the devil did it" thing. But seeing my own Mother live through something that would have killed the average person, I guess I have the right to be this way. IMHO, I simply feel that to blame your problems on something that just does not exist is a weak way of saying, "I don't understand, so I'll blame it on demons". The properties of a weak mind, if I may.

disclaimer:
This statement in not directed at any person or group, its just my belief.
 
Old 01-01-2009, 11:39 AM
 
Location: southern california
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also used to "expalin" misspellings, but that is easy to cast out.
 
Old 01-01-2009, 07:52 PM
 
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You are referring to interpretations of "experts" throughout history. Today's expertise is prone to dismiss such "accounts" altogether, suppress a better interpretation and hence understanding with market compatible medication .....

Deep thinkers, where art thou?
And does that medication keep the person who is being affected from levitating over their bed? LOL. What does todays Deep thinkers have to say about that? LOL
 
Old 01-01-2009, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Levitating over your bed? Only Chris Angel can do that, and it is just an illusion. Some people would like to believe they are possessed by demons rather than admit that they have a mental illness.
 
Old 01-01-2009, 10:23 PM
 
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When you say "Historical Accounts", by which part of the history are you refering too? If by this your saying, in the days of the Bible or the dark ages, then I question the truth in it. I quess its because I'm one of those type of people that when it comes to demons, I'm a see it to believe it type. The human brain/mind is a vast space that is yet to be completely explored and understood, truly the last frontier.

I think the biggest reason I don't believe in the demon thing is because my Mother lived with a brain tumor for 38 years. And it wasn't a preacher praying to God to take it out "Poof its gone". But, by the hands of two skilled surgeons that helped her, the same two sergeons that God gave the wonderful gift of healing to. She lived with the remaining part of the tumor unitl her passing two years ago, and during that time she was marked as making medical history for the size of the tumor. My Mother had a strangth and fighting spirit in her that can't be and never will be touch by most humans. To include myself.

So, I'm sorry if I sound a little pessimistic on the matter of "the devil did it" thing. But seeing my own Mother live through something that would have killed the average person, I guess I have the right to be this way. IMHO, I simply feel that to blame your problems on something that just does not exist is a weak way of saying, "I don't understand, so I'll blame it on demons". The properties of a weak mind, if I may.

disclaimer:
This statement in not directed at any person or group, its just my belief.
A brain tumor is just that, and it would require a surgeons attention. I myself had encounters long ago with the demonic, and it took prayer and a group of Christians in my case to remove that activity from me. Yet there are other accounts of demonic activity that have been recorded in recent times. When all of this happened to me, it really caught me by surprise. I had heard about such things in the Bible, yet such a thing is never often really though of. At least not until it happens to you. It was after that event in my life, when I really got to understand that the Bible is not just a Book of fables, but of actual events. And demons are not a thing of fiction, but fact. Even to this day it is sometimes hard for me to believe that really happened. Yet I know it did.
I still have the tapes of the deliverence I had to go through, and sometimes I still listen to them. That event in my life took place 35 years ago.
 
Old 01-02-2009, 06:57 AM
 
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Levitating over your bed? Only Chris Angel can do that, and it is just an illusion. Some people would like to believe they are possessed by demons rather than admit that they have a mental illness.
I'm sorry sanspeur, but there are cases on file that show that such events have happened, and it has nothing to do with Chris Angels illusions.
 
Old 01-02-2009, 07:05 AM
 
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I'm sorry sanspeur, but there are cases on file that show that such events have happened, and it has nothing to do with Chris Angels illusions.
Evidence? Links? Peer-reviewed papers?
 
Old 01-02-2009, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Montrose, CA
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SuSuSushi, I delt with this problem for 6 months, the events of this time defied logic. And one encounter with a group of Christians in a home in Crete Il. back in 1973 ended it. I'm not the one that is blind here.
No you didn't. You said you didn't seek medical help, so you didn't deal with it at all. Not only are you apparently blind to reality, but you also appear to be deaf to logic. But whatever, believe in your fantasy demons if you wish. Just don't expect us to really give a lot of validity to what you say really happened.

Personally, it sounds to me like you had an isolated psychotic episode, or perhaps brief psychotic disorder. *shrug*
 
Old 01-02-2009, 11:29 AM
 
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Evidence? Links? Peer-reviewed papers?
You might consider the link below, there are a number of such accounts.

Levitation
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