Obama plans on removing tax exempt status for all churches...

[Fullback32]

The taxing of churches would be aimed at those that are obviously businesses and are clearly breaking the rules concerning their 501c(3) status. It is obvious that "churches" such as Focus on the Family, the Christian Broadcasting Network (Pat Robertson), the Trinity Broadcasting Network (Jan and Paul Crouch), assorted "mega-churches" and their like are nothing than businesses and/or thinly veiled political action committees. I should think that the laws could be written in such a way to distinguish these blights on the American scene from the local church.

[jimmiej]

Originally Posted by Fullback32

The taxing of churches would be aimed at those that are obviously businesses and are clearly breaking the rules concerning their 501c(3) status. It is obvious that "churches" such as Focus on the Family, the Christian Broadcasting Network (Pat Robertson), the Trinity Broadcasting Network (Jan and Paul Crouch), assorted "mega-churches" and their like are nothing than businesses and/or thinly veiled political action committees. I should think that the laws could be written in such a way to distinguish these blights on the American scene from the local church.

I wasn't aware those organizations you listed are churches.

[SuperSoul]

Originally Posted by agnostic soldier

Churches shouldn't have tax exempt status in the first place. Also if a church is not hiring someone because of their sexual orientation they are discriminating against them. Employers can't discriminate based on things like sexual orientation, so what they are doing is illegal.

I agree that business-like churches shouldn't have tax exempt status, but I disagree about the types of discrimination that are legal & illegal.
It is legal to not want my child playing over at a house where the father is a known pedophile.
One can & SHOULD discriminate based on harmful behavior, as homosexual lifestyles have proven to be statistically, medically & psychologically.
Some try to blame harassment for the high incidence of illness (both physical & mental) in those who are active homosexually... but other minorities who have been persecuted much worse have less cases of such illnesses.

Believing in Christian doctrine is not the same as wanting to be sexual with someone who is like onself gender-wise, as you tried to compare. Also, you don't know if someone has any kind of preference for the same gender unless they tell you or you see them showing evidence of it, which would not be appropriate in most places of employment.

[Asheville Native]

Originally Posted by jimmiej

I wasn't aware those organizations you listed are churches.

This is not the first time I am stunned at what you don't know about the real world, christianity and the crooks and charlatans that play both followers and the laws for personal gain.

[SuperSoul]

Originally Posted by elgusano

So, when are the cries going to start out forcing Hooters to hire guys? Bunch of sexists!

LOL If some had their way, they would be forced to.



BTW - It seems that Obama is just doing his darndest to attack his opponent, however he can because he has nothing else to stand on.
It's really hypocritical of him to discriminate against a person based on religion while crying discimination in other ways.
Still, I know that the LDS church is more of a list of corporations than a church, although on a local level, it's not so obvious.
And really, both candidates (again) are not exactly the cream of the top, but I'll vote for the lesser of 2 evils, if need be: Romney.

[FredNotBob]

Originally Posted by SuperSoul

I agree that business-like churches shouldn't have tax exempt status, but I disagree about the types of discrimination that are legal & illegal.
It is legal to not want my child playing over at a house where the father is a known pedophile.
One can & SHOULD discriminate based on harmful behavior, as homosexual lifestyles have proven to be statistically, medically & psychologically.

Show me the statistics. Show me the medical journals and research. Show me the psychological evaluations. Show me reliable case studies, performed by licensed and named medical practitioners that are not affiliated with a religious body.

Regarding your example: if the father of the house is a known pedophile, he's in violation of his probation should your child be allowed an unsupervised visit, and will most likely be returned to prison -- so we can discount that point (nice attempt at conflating homosexuality and paedophilia, by the way. If it hadn't already been done to death and disproved, it might have worked).

Whether you agree or disagree is irrelevant - - discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, religion, race, criminal conviction unrelated to the job being applied for, or for any reason that is unrelated to the application, is illegal.

(By the way, those same protections also prohibit a workplace from refusing to hire you because you're a Christian. Might want to think about that.)

[Heathen Hammer]

Originally Posted by SuperSoul

One can & SHOULD discriminate based on harmful behavior, as homosexual lifestyles have proven to be statistically, medically & psychologically.

That is a homophobic Christian invention, ie., not supported by any facts

[Miss Blue]

Guys, the op is over 4 years old. Started at the last election. Old stale political droppings that never happened .

If you want to discuss the do's and dont's of taxing churches there are other threads here you can search.