Can you be gay and a Christian?? (souls, atheist, reincarnation)

[Virote]

Originally Posted by citigirl

I have done two years of extensive research about this influance in the schools. I have lost no credibility. I do believe there are some gays that do not know what children are being exposed to by groups like GLSEN. What is going on in some schools is very dangerous and very serious. Christians try to instill good behavior not promote activities that are in opposition to Bible teachings.

GLSEN is about violence in schools against homsexuals. Originally created after a boy was beaten to death by his classmates. All they do is organize a day of silence symbolic of the silence gay kids feel compelled to hold about their feelings lest they be brutalized. They are not part of a 'gay agenda' to turn your kids into one of them.

Dangerous? Opposition to the bible? Oh my god people want to oppose something they disagree with and exercise their freedom from religion in schools whatever shall we do? Quick call bibleman!

Off topic again, citi. Haven't I mentioned before?

[Lakewooder]

Originally Posted by citigirl

I have done two years of extensive research about this influance in the schools. I have lost no credibility. I do believe there are some gays that do not know what children are being exposed to by groups like GLSEN. What is going on in some schools is very dangerous and very serious. Christians try to instill good behavior not promote activities that are in opposition to Bible teachings.

Yes, I see you know what all Christians do, and if they don't do it they aren't.

Didn't you read those verses against women advising men on religious matters?

Be a good christian girl and hold thy tongue.

[NoOneInParticular]

Originally Posted by Hoosier_guy

I've heard that there are gay people who call themselves Christians. Can you be gay and a Christian at the same time? Does being gay go against what the Bible says? FYI: I am just asking a question, not making a statement.

No christian can accept that two men can be 'married' according to Gods word.
There isnt a single instance of two men being marriage and it is forbidden for a man to lie with a man as one does with a woman in the law, an idea repeated in Romans 1.

[Hoosier]

Originally Posted by NoOneInParticular

No christian can accept that two men can be 'married' according to Gods word.
There isnt a single instance of two men being marriage and it is forbidden for a man to lie with a man as one does with a woman in the law, an idea repeated in Romans 1.

Then why do so many people accept it as okay? What are the churches that accept homosexuality teaching that makes it permissive?

[CelticLady1]

Homosexuality is not mentioned, or even alluded to, in the Ten Commandments. Yes, I know it's mentioned in other passages, in the OT, although I have heard arguments as to what exactly was meant by those verses. Be that as it may, how did Jesus address homosexuality? Did he specifically mention it? I remember him talking about other sins, directly, but I honestly can't recall him saying anything about this issue. And, I'm not talking about the letters of Paul, or anyone else, in the New Testament. I'm talking about his own recorded words. If he did not say anything about it, then what, if anything, does this tell us?

[Hoosier]

Originally Posted by CelticLady1

Homosexuality is not mentioned, or even alluded to, in the Ten Commandments. Yes, I know it's mentioned in other passages, in the OT, although I have heard arguments as to what exactly was meant by those verses. Be that as it may, how did Jesus address homosexuality? Did he specifically mention it? I remember him talking about other sins, directly, but I honestly can't recall him saying anything about this issue. And, I'm not talking about the letters of Paul, or anyone else, in the New Testament. I'm talking about his own recorded words. If he did not say anything about it, then what, if anything, does this tell us?

But the words Paul wrote were not his own. They were from God.

[CelticLady1]

Originally Posted by Hoosier_guy

But the words Paul wrote were not his own. They were from God.

Well, some folks would argue with you about that. But, as I said, I'm not asking about Paul. I'm asking about Jesus. He was right there, with the people, with the prime opportunity to discuss, or preach, about any and all issues. Did he, or did he not, say anything about it? And, again, if he did not, what does this mean? Why would he not talk about it, if it was as serious a sin, as most people deem it to be? (Obviously, I'm going to have to open my own Bible, and search for myself, his recorded words, but I would like to know what others have read).

[TheRealAngelion]

Originally Posted by Hoosier_guy

Then why do so many people accept it as okay? What are the churches that accept homosexuality teaching that makes it permissive?

Here is a bibliography of some books from authors that provide a more progressive or liberal view on the subject of homosexuality and Christianity:

What the Bible Really Says about Homosexuality: Millennium Edition
by Daniel A. Helminiak

Jesus, the Bible, and Homosexuality: Explode the Myths, Heal the Church
by Jack Bartlett Rogers

Homosexuality and Christian Faith: Questions of Conscience for the Churches
by Walter Wink (Editor)

Living in Sin?: A Bishop Rethinks Human Sexuality
by John Shelby Spong

Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism: A Bishop Rethinks the Meaning of Scripture by John Shelby Spong

You can find these and others on any of the major online booksellers (Barnes & Noble, Borders, etc.)

[I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA]

Originally Posted by CelticLady1

Well, some folks would argue with you about that. But, as I said, I'm not asking about Paul. I'm asking about Jesus. He was right there, with the people, with the prime opportunity to discuss, or preach, about any and all issues. Did he, or did he not, say anything about it? And, again, if he did not, what does this mean? Why would he not talk about it, if it was as serious a sin, as most people deem it to be? (Obviously, I'm going to have to open my own Bible, and search for myself, his recorded words, but I would like to know what others have read).

I think Jesus did not address the issue because it had already been addressed. Just like He did not address other issues. He didn't need to. He said He did not come to do away with the law but to fulfill it. But I think you've got a great idea, reading our Bible and searching for these answers is the best way to find the answers.

[Hoosier]

Originally Posted by I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA

I think Jesus did not address the issue because it had already been addressed. Just like He did not address other issues. He didn't need to. He said He did not come to do away with the law but to fulfill it. But I think you've got a great idea, reading our Bible and searching for these answers is the best way to find the answers.

An excellent online resource for the Bible is http://www.biblegateway.com/ You can search by topic, keywords, or read chapters, books etc. It's really helpful when you're online, or need help finding something.