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I was sincerely wondering, not trying to agitate you. I am agnostic and have no faith in any unseen being. I was just hoping for some insight from an atheist what provides the proof that no deity exists.
Again, just what sits well with me...
I was raised in a religious household; church every Sunday, potluck dinner on Wednesday, choir practice on Thursday, bible study...whenever that was...and had as much instruction at home. My father was the Choir Master and on the vestry...
I veered from that at 13 or 14...just started rebuking the whole notion, belief system, mandates...but as a child I was still stuck. Basically got confirmed because I had no choice, and then refused to attend services anymore.
I then began to read (books, this being pre-internet) about other established religions, soon leaning toward alternative faiths - even practicing myself. I wanted to see if something else made more sense. I was open. A battle of the gods, as it were. And a goddess or two. The more I searched - and by that I mean origin, history and not just face-value of the modern day equivalent, the more dismayed I became.
It just all became so absurd to me. By my mid-twenties, I had formed my opinion and it has only become more solidly held with age.
To me it is a combination of superstition and social control. I'm all for a good moral standing and building a strong, healthy community, BTW, but I don't think religion is the only way to come about it. And I chafe with the idea that someone else's religion (and only theirs) might dictate to me. I do get...testy.
Some people have the keen ability to believe in a god without religion, or admit that they don't know one way or the other...
But for me, in my mind, there is no god, good or bad - and I don't need there to be one. I am not disturbed by voiding this.
I have a very cold way of approaching this subject. I try not to let emotion cloud my words, or else I could come across as slightly more than disenchanted...
The rain god, the sky god, the mountain god, the harvest god, the sun god, the moon god, the cloud god, the insect god, et al. However due to globalization and restructuring, all gods had to be consolidated and reallocated to the various regions and to adapt to local conditions. A thousand years from now all the various religions now will evolve and their beliefs and practices will not be familiar.
The rain god, the sky god, the mountain god, the harvest god, the sun god, the moon god, the cloud god, the insect god, et al. However due to globalization and restructuring, all gods had to be consolidated and reallocated to the various regions and to adapt to local conditions. A thousand years from now all the various religions now will evolve and their beliefs and practices will not be familiar.
Yes. Even more than the concept of a God. Religion has always been a means of oppression and mass control. It has done more harm than good. Even today, just turn on the telly. They tell you who to vote for, what friends to choose, etc...
I read a good discussion on the internet once. I wish I could point everyone to it but it's long gone now.
Both of the guys were liberal Democrats and shared similar values. Both had studied religion in college (I think one had an undergraduate degree or graduate degree in Comparitive religions, I can't remember what religious degree the other had but it was similar). One was a Christian, one was an atheist.
They argued about the existance of God -- and that was what was so fascinating. They were both extremely knowledgable and were able to back up their arguments with scriptures, science, etc. It was really interesting. It's a shame everyone didn't get to read it because I think it would lead to greater understanding of how someone can end up an atheist and someone with the same information can end up a Christian.
I think a lot more people are Agnostic rather than Atheist.
and a person's belief or view can change sometimes.Its my understanding for example,that Benjamin Franklin went thru different phases in his life being atheist or agnostic then latter believing in God.
When I read the bible,it comforts me,it makes me stop and think,I think thats all the proof I need.The argument of science over faith,I think science is about learning how God makes things "tick".One should not necessarily be at odds with other.Albert Einstein was very religious,which is why he was at odds with quantum mechanics,as he believed everthing must be in "order" with no room of uncertainty.
Religion has been around since man could think and reason. Christ has been around for alittle more of 2000yrs. Not all religion are for mind control. My grandfather was was native modoc, the spirits he talked about were not to control my mind. but help me understand this world. For those that "believe" there is no GOD, maybe the great deciever has control of YOUR mind. That voice inside you tells you no, just like he wants you to think. SO nobodys in control of you? Yeah RIGHT. Im sure you're free to think anything you like
Religion has been around since man could think and reason. Christ has been around for alittle more of 2000yrs. Not all religion are for mind control. My grandfather was was native modoc, the spirits he talked about were not to control my mind. but help me understand this world. For those that "believe" there is no GOD, maybe the great deciever has control of YOUR mind. That voice inside you tells you no, just like he wants you to think. SO nobodys in control of you? Yeah RIGHT. Im sure you're free to think anything you like
OK, I don't mean to sound rude, but this was kinda funny. You've illustrated my stance for me.
(and yes, I believe in spirits, having some bizarre experiences as a child myself...but by limitation I don't worship them or attribute the presence of to a higher power...)
I've always wondered if the bible wasn't some fictional bestseller from thousands of years ago.
I wonder if, years from now, people will find a copy of one of Sidney Sheldon's books and decide that that is the religion their ancestors followed?
You might find this science fiction book called "A Canticle for Leibowitz" By Walter Miller entertaining. It's about something like that.
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And maybe the dinosaur god too, do you think? 
That voice inside you tells you no, just like he wants you to think. SO nobodys in control of you? Yeah RIGHT.
Im sure you're free to think anything you like
