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The facts are the facts. They have no labels on them. It is your interpretation of the facts that you want us to believe. Your world view dictates that you interpret the facts a certain way. So, you may be presenting your interpretation over and over, but it still requires a belief in your world view to accept your interpretation.
The facts are the facts. They have no labels on them. It is your interpretation of the facts that you want us to believe. Your world view dictates that you interpret the facts a certain way. So, you may be presenting your interpretation over and over, but it still requires a belief in your world view to accept your interpretation.
Sorry Nikk. Facts are as the result of scientific study. One only needs to look at this forum and see how many times Creationists have broken the fact game here and said "god did it." You want to play in the world of facts only until it doesn't go your way, which is nearly all the time.
The only people who disagree with that statement are Creationists, who admittedly don't play by the rules.
That is an unscientific response Campbell. The actual data would show that when certain statements are made that make people question their faiths, sometimes it's easier to censor.
Campbell, we have presented the facts over and over. We have received the rote faith-based answers over and over.
It is what it is, and so be it.
The facts in the Scriptures are much easier to verify. I have yet to see any facts from your side that could be considered a slam dunk for evolution. Evolution has much to do with speculation, and assumptions. The Bible has a lot to do with historical discovery, and fulfilled prophecies.
However, if one actively ignores historical facts, and fulfilled prophecies, then what can one say.
The facts in the Scriptures are much easier to verify. I have yet to see any facts from your side that could be considered a slam dunk for evolution. Evolution has much to do with speculation, and assumptions. The Bible has a lot to do with historical discovery, and fulfilled prophecies.
However, if one actively ignores historical facts, and fulfilled prophecies, then what can one say.
Typical bait to distract response. Nobody is talking about evolution in this topic, we are talking about the myth of Noahs flood.
Typical bait to distract response. Nobody is talking about evolution in this topic, we are talking about the myth of Noahs flood.
If the flood is a myth, why are there hundreds of cultures with a flood story in their oral traditions. If it was just a local flood, it is doubtful that so many cultures would have such a story, and often those stories have many details that match. And these oral traditions come from every part of the earth. Do you believe in some ancient time, that all the people from the past world thought it would be fun to make up a flood story?
If the flood is a myth, why are there hundreds of cultures with a flood story in their oral traditions. If it was just a local flood, it is doubtful that so many cultures would have such a story, and often those stories have many details that match. And these oral traditions come from every part of the earth. Do you believe in some ancient time, that all the people from the past world thought it would be fun to make up a flood story?
There are dozens of disasterous floods every year Cambell...Each and every year, and because most civilizations locate near bodies of water they are always effected.
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People in countries across the world, from China to India and Sudan to Indonesia, are coping with severe wet weather, highlighting the position of flooding as the most deadly of all natural disasters.
If the flood is a myth, why are there hundreds of cultures with a flood story in their oral traditions. If it was just a local flood, it is doubtful that so many cultures would have such a story, and often those stories have many details that match. And these oral traditions come from every part of the earth. Do you believe in some ancient time, that all the people from the past world thought it would be fun to make up a flood story?
Sanspeur already pointed out that floods have always been pretty common near large bodies of water. That same river the ancients used to get their water from would flood every once in a while.
I also like how you imply that the matching details indicate a global flood while conveniently ignoring all the details that don't match.
Sanspeur already pointed out that floods have always been pretty common near large bodies of water. That same river the ancients used to get their water from would flood every once in a while.
I also like how you imply that the matching details indicate a global flood while conveniently ignoring all the details that don't match.
Yes there are flash floods, and they are pretty common, yet don't you find it a bit strange that many of the stories always involve a large boat that was constructed to protect one man and his faimly.
There are just way to many common points to the story reveal by so many around the world.
(Destruction by water. Divine cause. Warning given. Humans spared Animals spared. Preserved in a vessel.) The common aspects to this story has been presevered by the following people, and countries.
Australia-Kurnai, Bolivia-Chiriguano, Borneo-sea Dayak, Burma-Singpho, Canada-Cree, China-Lolo, Cuba-original natives, East Africa-Masai, Egypt-Book of the Dead, French Polynesia, Guyana-Macushi, Iceland-Eddas, India-Andamam Islands, India-Bhil, India-Kamar, Iran- Zend-Avesta, Italy-Ovid's Poetry, Mexico-Codex Chimalpopoca, New Zeland-Maori, Peru-Indians of Huarochiri, Russia-Vogul, Alaska-Tlingit,Arizona-Papago, Hawaii-legend of Nu-u, Vietnam-Bahnar, ect.
So do you believe that all these people in the past made up a story that involve a God warning mankind of a great flood, and when the flood came it was caused by divine intervention, and a vessel was constructed, and it was filled with animals, and a small company of humans only survived because the were kept safe in this large vessel? So your telling me all these people made this story up and kept it in their oral tradition, and just by chance it appears that all these people all over the earth pretty much made up the same story?
Yes there are flash floods, and they are pretty common, yet don't you find it a bit strange that many of the stories always involve a large boat that was constructed to protect one man and his faimly.
There are just way to many common points to the story reveal by so many around the world.
(Destruction by water. Divine cause. Warning given. Humans spared Animals spared. Preserved in a vessel.) The common aspects to this story has been presevered by the following people, and countries.
Australia-Kurnai, Bolivia-Chiriguano, Borneo-sea Dayak, Burma-Singpho, Canada-Cree, China-Lolo, Cuba-original natives, East Africa-Masai, Egypt-Book of the Dead, French Polynesia, Guyana-Macushi, Iceland-Eddas, India-Andamam Islands, India-Bhil, India-Kamar, Iran- Zend-Avesta, Italy-Ovid's Poetry, Mexico-Codex Chimalpopoca, New Zeland-Maori, Peru-Indians of Huarochiri, Russia-Vogul, Alaska-Tlingit,Arizona-Papago, Hawaii-legend of Nu-u, Vietnam-Bahnar, ect.
So do you believe that all these people in the past made up a story that involve a God warning mankind of a great flood, and when the flood came it was caused by divine intervention, and a vessel was constructed, and it was filled with animals, and a small company of humans only survived because the were kept safe in this large vessel? So your telling me all these people made this story up and kept it in their oral tradition, and just by chance it appears that all these people all over the earth pretty much made up the same story?
Sometimes so much evidence is blinding when your use to theory and what if's, built around one big explosion that accidentally made everything..... of course over billions of yrs.
No one is arguing about construction of a vessel to save yourself and loved ones including pets.
But what we arguing is a 450 ft boat carrying all the living breathing creatures in the world. That's a myth that you and alike believe. There are differences, you see.
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