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Old 11-11-2008, 06:33 AM
 
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This is the same quality of thinking that is required to believe Evolution. LOL
Why do you always attack evolution every second of the day? This is a tread about the ark last time I checked.
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Old 11-11-2008, 02:47 PM
 
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So you believe it would be possible for a local man to built a ship which is over 400 feet long, and 3 miles up on a mountain to avoid a local flood?And you believe he might of brought some sheep with him? Did the local man also bring with him a supply of oxygen? And where would a local man that lived thousands of years ago, get a supply of oxygen? And how long would it take a local man to build a ship 400 hundred feet long and three miles up on a mountian?

This is the same quality of thinking that is required to believe Evolution. LOL
No, not a ship that big. A worn down, termite infested dinghy. How's that? Nowhere near this biblical account you believe literally. (And that is just speculation that a local man could have spawned this myth. It could have been 100% fiction.)

You choose not to understand Evolution because it goes against your belief system. It is understandable and predictable, but for the rest of us, it's called science.
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Old 11-11-2008, 06:19 PM
 
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No, not a ship that big. A worn down, termite infested dinghy. How's that? Nowhere near this biblical account you believe literally. (And that is just speculation that a local man could have spawned this myth. It could have been 100% fiction.)

You choose not to understand Evolution because it goes against your belief system. It is understandable and predictable, but for the rest of us, it's called science.
Well, I thought we were talking about Noahs Ark, not a dinghy. And the pictures from space, and the eyewitiness accounts are speaking about an object the size of a ship, not a dinghy.
And I choose not to believe Evolution, because the Theory lacks evidence. The Theory rest more on speculation, assumptions, and artistic drawings. Where as the Bibles truth is being proven by historical discovery, and prophecies than can physically be viewed as factual. It is factual information that science is about. Science should never be reduced to assumptions, that rest near the edges of myth.
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Old 11-11-2008, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Campbell you have everything backwards....There is tons of evidence for evolution, but not one iota for creationism...Artistic drawings indeed! Noah's ark= myth....Evolution = fact.... Bible = hearsay, not evidence.
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Old 11-11-2008, 06:48 PM
 
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Well I hope that once the Kurdish problem is resolved and the mountain re-opened so they can send some people out there to see what that anomaly really is.
The problem is not that there is a Kurdish problem, before that,Turkey said the mountain was to close to the Russian border, and that was the reason the refused anyone to go to the North Slope during the cold war. The problem is, Turkey is an Islamic country, and they do not want to give any validity to the Bible, because it is of the Jewish Faith. So they suppress historical discovery that would do this. The same thing is going on in Saudia Arabia. The real Mt.Sinai has been located there, but they have built a fence around the mountain, made it a military post and will not allow anyone from the West to explore the mountain. Here again, this is an Islamic nation suppressing historical discovery for religious reasons. It will not matter what problem is resoloved, Turkey, and Saudia Arabia will always find a reason not to allow anyone from the West to explore these sites. Thats why some explorers had to sneek into these areas at great personal risk, and that is why we can only view these areas from satellites in space.
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Old 11-11-2008, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Campbell you have everything backwards....There is tons of evidence for evolution, but not one iota for creationism...Artistic drawings indeed! Noah's ark= myth....Evolution = fact.... Bible = hearsay, not evidence.
What you don't exist? Your not created... have you ever read the odds of an eye ball coming into being based on random big bang theories?

How about the complexities of the brain, the nervous system... nothing puts itself together, there is an intelligent creator behind all you see, touch, taste, hear....and if you have intuition... sense.

Wake up sleeper, find the truth so you can grow into your potential.


godspeed,

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Old 11-11-2008, 06:52 PM
 
Location: southern california
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the bible is not a history book for the most part its literature. teaches moral lessons, does a good job of that.
our science community mentions several large floods that have occured.
probably did affect some people.
there are those that swear there is no connection between moral calamity and natural calamity. but i knew NO b4 katrina, i disagree.
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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A sensible explanation

Columbia University geologists William Ryan and Walter Pitman wondered what could explain the preponderance of flood legends. Their theory: As the Ice Age ended and glaciers melted, a wall of seawater surged from the Mediterranean into the Black Sea.



• During the Ice Age, Ryan and Pitman argue, the Black Sea was an isolated freshwater lake surrounded by farmland.
• About 12,000 years ago, toward the end of the Ice Age, Earth began growing warmer. Vast sheets of ice that sprawled over the Northern Hemisphere began to melt. Oceans and seas grew deeper as a result.
• About 7,000 years ago the Mediterranean Sea swelled. Seawater pushed northward, slicing through what is now Turkey.
• Funneled through the narrow Bosporus, the water hit the Black Sea with 200 times the force of Niagara Falls. Each day the Black Sea rose about six inches (15 centimeters), and coastal farms were flooded.
• Seared into the memories of terrified survivors, the tale of the flood was passed down through the generations and eventually became the Noah story.

National Geographic: Noah’s Flood/Black Sea Expedition
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:17 PM
 
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Campbell you have everything backwards....There is tons of evidence for evolution, but not one iota for creationism...Artistic drawings indeed! Noah's ark= myth....Evolution = fact.... Bible = hearsay, not evidence.
Non believers in the Bible use to say that Israels two Kingdoms, and King David were just myths. They use to say there never was a King David, and thus there was never a King David's Palace either. However, that has all changed with discoveries of late.

Consider links below
King David: Man or Myth?
King David's Palace Found In East Jerusalem?


What we are finding with the Bible, is that every new discovery only leads us to the conclusion, that from the beginning, the Bible has consistently been telling us the truth. Every new discovery tells us, it's writings can be believed, and trusted.

Noahs Ark has been seen over the years by a slect few, and all of them tell the same story, and their stories are being verified by satellites, and photographs from space. Can believers in Evolution give us that kind of evidence?
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:24 PM
 
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the bible is not a history book for the most part its literature. teaches moral lessons, does a good job of that.
our science community mentions several large floods that have occured.
probably did affect some people.
there are those that swear there is no connection between moral calamity and natural calamity. but i knew NO b4 katrina, i disagree.
If the Bible is lying about the flood, can you show us evdience that the Bible has lied about other things written within it's pages? Because the Bible tells us, all these things really happened and are true.
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