Noah's Ark - How'd that happen? (according, secret, mass, quote)
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Campbell, you have proved yet again, that you know nothing about geology and the forces that shaped our planet. You have said repeatedly that in your young earth model that the mountains rose after the alleged flood. Can you not see how whale fossils would have gotten there?
The mountains were created during the flood after the crust of the earth collapsed. And that is why the water was able to rise above the highest mountain. Yet to suggest that fossils remained intact thousands of years latter as the mountains pushed thousands of feet above the surface of the sea is not logical. Many of the whale fossils have been found undisturbed, and that could not of been possible if the mountains were continually in motion, and moving high into the air for thousands of years. They could only remain undisturbed, if the event suddenly happened, and then suddenly stopped.
The mountains were created during the flood after the crust of the earth collapsed. And that is why the water was able to rise above the highest mountain. Yet to suggest that fossils remained intact thousands of years latter as the mountains pushed thousands of feet above the surface of the sea is not logical. Many of the whale fossils have been found undisturbed, and that could not of been possible if the mountains were continually in motion, and moving high into the air for thousands of years. They could only remain undisturbed, if the event suddenly happened, and then suddenly stopped.
Did this really make sense to you before you posted? Here is an experiment you can do to see why that doesn't work:
-grab a table with a whole bunch of stuff on top.
-Very slowly move it from one side of the room to another.
-see if anything on top moved
Now repeat the same experiment with your idea:
-grab a table with a whole bunch of stuff on top.
-lunge the table from one side to the other
-see if anything on top moved.
campbell, I have seen and even collected shells and fossils of sea creatures in our local mountains. The location I find them in was once sea bed that has been driven up by tectonic plates colliding on the west coast of North America, the same force that gave birth to the mountain ranges that stretch all the way down the Americas. The mountains are the source of many fossils from the sea. The Niagara Escarpment limestone was also once ancient sea bed about 450 million years ago. There is much you miss, or do not know when you dismiss science.
How do they find whale fossils high up in mountains undisturbed if the mountian has been in constant motion? Now one can understand how you could find shells and fossils of small sea creatures. Yet, how do they keep a full skeketon intact of a whale, after thousands of years of geological upheavals? I'm not missing anything here, I looking at this from a common sense approach. Also, a whale when it dies does not sink to the bottom and is buried in mud. It floats and it is soon torn apart by other sharks ect. A fossil requires a quick immersion in mud before a fossil can become a fossil. This does not normally happen. So what happened so long ago that accounts for so many fossils we see today.
Did this really make sense to you before you posted? Here is an experiment you can do to see why that doesn't work:
-grab a table with a whole bunch of stuff on top.
-Very slowly move it from one side of the room to another.
-see if anything on top moved
Now repeat the same experiment with your idea:
-grab a table with a whole bunch of stuff on top.
-lunge the table from one side to the other
-see if anything on top moved.
Your example is to simplistic when speaking of geological motion and time. In the real world, geological motion is not as neat or as ordely as you would have us believe. And it is for that reason the idea of a whale fossil being found fully intact, and after thousands of years, and thousands of feet up on a mountain is rather far fetched.
How do they find whale fossils high up in mountains undisturbed if the mountian has been in constant motion? Now one can understand how you could find shells and fossils of small sea creatures. Yet, how do they keep a full skeketon intact of a whale, after thousands of years of geological upheavals? I'm not missing anything here, I looking at this from a common sense approach. Also, a whale when it dies does not sink to the bottom and is buried in mud. It floats and it is soon torn apart by other sharks ect. A fossil requires a quick immersion in mud before a fossil can become a fossil. This does not normally happen. So what happened so long ago that accounts for so many fossils we see today.
Campbell, until you learn a bit about science there is not much point in discussing this. You continue to express outlandish statements as fact when you have absolutely no basis to do so.
Your example is to simplistic when speaking of geological motion and time. In the real world, geological motion is not as neat or as ordely as you would have us believe. And it is for that reason the idea of a whale fossil being found fully intact, and after thousands of years, and thousands of feet up on a mountain is rather far fetched.
There were no intact whales found in the Niagara escarpment, just bits and pieces like ribs and vertebrae and teeth found. As far as whales found in mountain ranges the same applies...The bones were scattered.
How do they find whale fossils high up in mountains undisturbed if the mountian has been in constant motion? Now one can understand how you could find shells and fossils of small sea creatures. Yet, how do they keep a full skeketon intact of a whale, after thousands of years of geological upheavals? I'm not missing anything here, I looking at this from a common sense approach. Also, a whale when it dies does not sink to the bottom and is buried in mud. It floats and it is soon torn apart by other sharks ect. A fossil requires a quick immersion in mud before a fossil can become a fossil. This does not normally happen. So what happened so long ago that accounts for so many fossils we see today.
Umm... when whales die they do sink to the bottom and create entirely new ecosystems where they settle. After their bones are stripped of anything viable, the bones are then buried in silt and mud. You can look it up on basically any scientific site or book... And no, fossils do not require a quick immersion in mud. Simple science my friend. Do a quick search for sedimentary fossils and how they are made.
Campbell34, I have to ask this question: What do you do with information that is presented to you? Do you just ignore if it doesn't fit your mindset?
They have come along way in the method of dating rock, so how does one explain a piece of animal, or in some cases the whole animal, being enclosed in rock that is 250 million years old. The best way they have found is using the Argon-Argon dating method, it's error rate is only .25 percent. If your wondering what this method is look it up, educate yourself.
Yeah we can. Erosion and plate tectonics take millions of years. Noah wasn't a million years ago, it was only a couple millenia. If the world changed THAT fast, then the New World that Columbus and the Vikings found isn't the same American continent we're living on today, cause after all that was 400-800 years ago. A mere 1000-1500 years after Noah.
Where on earth did you get those dates from? The Flood story I've heard was dated at around 6000BC....way before the Pyramids were built...
Also...erosion and plate tectonics do not take "millions of years" if God is involved...
So no we can't....we can't ASSUME to know what the world looked like back then. (maybe you do, but I don't)
Where on earth did you get those dates from? The Flood story I've heard was dated at around 6000BC....way before the Pyramids were built... Also...erosion and plate tectonics do not take "millions of years" if God is involved...
So no we can't....we can't ASSUME to know what the world looked like back then. (maybe you do, but I don't)
Bud
Bud, how many years would it take if Santa Clause was involved or the Easter Bunny.
I find it remarkable that this God, that created the entire universe with all its 100 of trillions of stars, has nothing better to do than mess with the creatures that inhabit this world. But, hey! God can do anything, so I hear.
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