More Problems With Noah's Ark (salvation, abortion, punished, Commandments)

[Fontucky]

Faith never holds up to the unblinking eye of science. That's why they call it faith.

[ShepsMom]

Originally Posted by offthefence

Noah had about a hundred years to build the Ark and collect the animals. Not a difficult thing to do given that kind of time.

How long do animals live? You're saying that he collected animals for a 100 or so years, so if i'm understanding this right, he would need male and female animal of each kind to be with him at all time for 100 or so years, what happened if the pair died in around year 99? Did he go and look for a new pair, who supervised the animals then?
Yeah, not a hard thing to do, but in a myth, anything is possible.

[jennaflorrie]

Life and its creation were more centralised at the time of Noah. God, if you imagine a God so powerful he could create a universe, world and all life in it, could CERTAINLY draw all the creatures that were required to be on that ship - towards it. Don't forget, the building of the ark also took place over many years. It wasn't a one year job, more like 50 - 100. Plenty of time for God to work! You are making God into YOUR image! God is way, way above our thourghts our ways, he is more than able to do a little thing like get all the creatures together on the ark. Some of those animals may have been 'babies' - but God was big enough - He's a mighty God!

[jennaflorrie]

Originally Posted by Fontucky

Faith never holds up to the unblinking eye of science. That's why they call it faith.

God is the greatest scientist.
And it takes more faith to be an athiest.

[MontanaGuy]

The difficulty in the plausibilty of such an event as Noah's arc just keeps getting tougher trying to find explanations for seemingly impossible situations. Here's just a few of them:
1.The arc described in the Bible isn't big enough to hold all of the land species in the world.
2.There is a finite amount of water in our planet and no reasonable explanation has described where the water came from or where it went after the flood.
3. An ocean covering all of the earth for an extended period of time would kill all of the vegetation.
4. When the flood was over the animals would all die because if they were predators there would only be two pair of their natural prey and if they ate them they'd go extinct and the predators in turn would starve to death. Forget about becoming vegetarians, the flood would have killed off all vegetation.

The more you consider all of the aspects of such an event it becomes quite apparent that this is mythology and not history.

[jennaflorrie]

Montanna Guy - the animals that went in the ark were infants - maybe. The ark was big enough - because God gave the measurements. The water was rain - it had never rained before the flood. The vegetation grew again. The animals were fed from supplies (maybe!) until able to feed themselves. After the floods - land areas were decreased - more water! The rest of it evaporated (?) I don't have all the answers - I wasn't there. But GOD was!! And God is a mighty, awesome God - and if God made the world and the universe, sorting out Noah and the ark and the animals and the vegetation and the waters would have been EASY!!! You are making God small. But God is a BIG, BIG God!!!!

[coosjoaquin]

It is mythology. If there was a god, then why would it partake in this convoluted mess of a story?

[sanspeur]

Originally Posted by jennaflorrie

Life and its creation were more centralised at the time of Noah. God, if you imagine a God so powerful he could create a universe, world and all life in it, could CERTAINLY draw all the creatures that were required to be on that ship - towards it. Don't forget, the building of the ark also took place over many years. It wasn't a one year job, more like 50 - 100. Plenty of time for God to work! You are making God into YOUR image! God is way, way above our thourghts our ways, he is more than able to do a little thing like get all the creatures together on the ark. Some of those animals may have been 'babies' - but God was big enough - He's a mighty God!

Key words bolded....The only way to explain the impossible is to imagine it.

[ShepsMom]

Originally Posted by jennaflorrie

Montanna Guy - the animals that went in the ark were infants - maybe. The ark was big enough - because God gave the measurements. The water was rain - it had never rained before the flood. The vegetation grew again. The animals were fed from supplies (maybe!) until able to feed themselves. After the floods - land areas were decreased - more water! The rest of it evaporated (?) I don't have all the answers - I wasn't there. But GOD was!! And God is a mighty, awesome God - and if God made the world and the universe, sorting out Noah and the ark and the animals and the vegetation and the waters would have been EASY!!! You are making God small. But God is a BIG, BIG God!!!!

When you have a chance to put bible aside, for just a few moments, open your eyes and mind, think of everything else you've ever learned at school and in your entire life, then come back and read your writing again.

Do any of you ever question anything at all? Do you guys even try look at the other side of things? I'm not asking for any of you to reject everything you believe, i just wonder if any even consider the possibility that may be, just may be, there are contradictions? Have you ever gave it a chance to explore and actually give it a really deep thought?


Sometimes i read responses of a few of the fundamentalists and wonder if they ever left the house or went to school, or read anything beyond the bible.

I can see how some people believe in something, i can very much understand that, but it boggles my mind that so many believe in a bible as a "literal truth", no questions ask.

Even if you believe in every written scenario in a bible, is it possible that those event are just metaphors and not an actual events?

[JohnJLethal]

Originally Posted by jennaflorrie

God is the greatest scientist.
And it takes more faith to be an athiest.

I see you belong to the "whatever I say makes it true" camp. Not surprising since you think a sky god spoke everything into existence.

Atheists don't have faith. If gods can be quantified scientifically, I'll take them into consideration. Until then, they belong on the imaginary supermarket shelf with werewolves, vampires and Keebler elves.