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Your only seeing half the picture. Christianity from it's beginnings has always been aggressive and hateful towards groups of people it has deemed evil or unworthy. Pagans, women, and today gays - just to name a few. It's religious people that has started this whole mess about gay marriage. Churches are the ones that put this on the ballot and are financing the majority of it. The left is only reacting. If you don't want the left to reacting don't enforce your religious values on the entire population.
I'm not. I've already stated that I have no issue with Gays being able to obtain some sort of civil union that would give them the same rights as straight couples in regards to property, medical decisions and insurance.
I just feel that you can't force individual churches to recognize or perform gay marriages. As long as the militant gay lobby doesn't try and force gay marriage on individual churches I don't care if they can marry. Let them be miserable too!
Freedom, just a quick question. You've mentioned all of the supposed failures of Canada, you've made some unflattering remarks about Great Britain and of course you think America is going to hell in a handbasket, especially since we've elected Obama. As I recall you even stated on another thread that Israel is going to attack Iran if Obama is elected and we'll be fighting World War III before he ever even gets into office. Anyway, here's my question: Is there any nation in the entire world that we should be looking up to because they're actually running their economies and their governmental institutions in an efficient and orderly manner? And since the OP is really about the conflicts between Christians and gays is there a nation that you feel is handling this conflict correctly?
I'm not. I've already stated that I have no issue with Gays being able to obtain some sort of civil union that would give them the same rights as straight couples in regards to property, medical decisions and insurance.
I just feel that you can't force individual churches to recognize or perform gay marriages. As long as the militant gay lobby doesn't try and force gay marriage on individual churches I don't care if they can marry. Let them be miserable too!
Nobody is going to force any church to perform same sex marriage. In Canada many progressive churches embrace the gay community and perform these ceremonies happily. I'm sure at least some churches in the US accept same sex couples...
"What is this, to you? Nobody is asking you to embrace their expression of love. But don't you, as human beings, have to embrace... that love? The world is barren enough.
It is stacked against love, and against hope, and against those very few and precious emotions that enable us to go forward. Your marriage only stands a 50-50 chance of lasting, no matter how much you feel and how hard you work.
And here are people overjoyed at the prospect of just that chance, and that work, just for the hope of having that feeling. With so much hate in the world, with so much meaningless division, and people pitted against people for no good reason, this is what your religion tells you to do? With your experience of life and this world and all its sadnesses, this is what your conscience tells you to do? With your knowledge that life, with endless vigor, seems to tilt the playing field on which we all live, in favor of unhappiness and hate... this is what your heart tells you to do?
You want to sanctify marriage? You want to honor your God and the universal love you believe he represents? Then Spread happiness--this tiny, symbolic, semantical grain of happiness--share it with all those who seek it. Quote me anything from your religious leader or book of choice telling you to stand against this. And then tell me how you can believe both that statement and another statement, another one which reads only "do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
Freedom, just a quick question. You've mentioned all of the supposed failures of Canada, you've made some unflattering remarks about Great Britain and of course you think America is going to hell in a handbasket, especially since we've elected Obama. As I recall you even stated on another thread that Israel is going to attack Iran if Obama is elected and we'll be fighting World War III before he ever even gets into office. Anyway, here's my question: Is there any nation in the entire world that we should be looking up to because they're actually running their economies and their governmental institutions in an efficient and orderly manner? And since the OP is really about the conflicts between Christians and gays is there a nation that you feel is handling this conflict correctly?
Nope, we should be looking to God's kingdom.
All the nations of the world have fallen away from morality, selflessness, and the divine attributes.
Separation of church and State is fine....no problem with that... It's the separation of Man and God that will and is our downfall.
"What is this, to you? Nobody is asking you to embrace their expression of love. But don't you, as human beings, have to embrace... that love? The world is barren enough.
It is stacked against love, and against hope, and against those very few and precious emotions that enable us to go forward. Your marriage only stands a 50-50 chance of lasting, no matter how much you feel and how hard you work.
And here are people overjoyed at the prospect of just that chance, and that work, just for the hope of having that feeling. With so much hate in the world, with so much meaningless division, and people pitted against people for no good reason, this is what your religion tells you to do? With your experience of life and this world and all its sadnesses, this is what your conscience tells you to do? With your knowledge that life, with endless vigor, seems to tilt the playing field on which we all live, in favor of unhappiness and hate... this is what your heart tells you to do?
You want to sanctify marriage? You want to honor your God and the universal love you believe he represents? Then Spread happiness--this tiny, symbolic, semantical grain of happiness--share it with all those who seek it. Quote me anything from your religious leader or book of choice telling you to stand against this. And then tell me how you can believe both that statement and another statement, another one which reads only "do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
I guarantee the Court of the most high has the last say.
godspeed,
freedom
And according to that same authority, Christians have no right to judge others. So they have to live and let live. Those that don't are not following God.
And according to that same authority, Christians have no right to judge others. So they have to live and let live. Those that don't are not following God.
Who are you to interpret a Bible you think is a fairy tale?
Judge lest ye be judged is talking about the fact that God has the final say as to who enters heaven. It is our duty to warn sinners of eternal judgment if they don't repent. Christ said we know a tree by it's fruit.
And according to that same authority, Christians have no right to judge others. So they have to live and let live. Those that don't are not following God.
You believe scriptures?
godspeed,
freedom
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