How does Bible prove existance of God? (Revelation, priest, Islam)

[skoro]

Originally Posted by ShepsMom

I would like to hear from my fellow Christians. Could this be done without scriptures or quotes? I don't know, but anything is possible.

The short answer is: it can't. The Bible is a collection of pre-existing creation stories from several ancient Middle Eastern cultures.

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by SuSuSushi

*sigh* I've already explained it. Deuteronomy says the Jewish people descended from a wandering Aramean who wandered his happy butt down to Egypt and settled there, and bred a whole bunch of little non-wandering Arameans until eventually they became a huge tribe. So they're either a)Arameans, or b)Egyptians. Which means that modern Israel is NOT their "ancestral lands".

The bible has hundreds of glaring inconsistencies like this, because it's a book of stories, not fact.

Well that's all fine and good, but the God of the Bible clearly stated that the Jews were to return to the (land of Israel), not the land of the Arameans. And He also stated in the prophecy that they would retake (Jerusalem). Maybe you should write your own Bible, and then you could tell them to go back to the land of the Arameans. LOL. The only inconsistencies I see here, is the way you avoid what is clearly stated, and then put your own spin on things not spoken.

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by ShepsMom

Campbell, this is the only prophecy you ever point out. I'd like to hear some other ones, would you mind??

I ususally point out the return of the Jews to Israel, because the Bible clearly speaks of this event. I have also talked about Jerusalems East gate prophecy as well. There are a great number of prophecies that are coming up, yet they have not been fulfilled as of yet. One of them will be the destruction of the United States. I believe this one is coming as we see are nation being hit by wild weather, economic down turns, and the out pouring of sin that is thought of as normal. The Bible has a lot to say about what is going to happen here in American, and it is pretty frightening. There are also the prophecies that speak of a time that will occur after America is gone, and that reads more like some kind os sci fi-flick, and that is even more frightening.

[JohnJLethal]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

I ususally point out the return of the Jews to Israel, because the Bible clearly speaks of this event. I have also talked about Jerusalems East gate prophecy as well. There are a great number of prophecies that are coming up, yet they have not been fulfilled as of yet. One of them will be the destruction of the United States. I believe this one is coming as we see are nation being hit by wild weather, economic down turns, and the out pouring of sin that is thought of as normal. The Bible has a lot to say about what is going to happen here in American, and it is pretty frightening. There are also the prophecies that speak of a time that will occur after America is gone, and that reads more like some kind os sci fi-flick, and that is even more frightening.

Funny, I do not recall reading the word "America" in the bible. Is this one of your differently translated bibles where women who were "raped" in normal bibles translates to yours as "consensual?"

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by JohnJLethal

Funny, I do not recall reading the word "America" in the bible. Is this one of your differently translated bibles where women who were "raped" in normal bibles translates to yours as "consensual?"

Do you recall reading the name Jesus Christ in the Old Testament? You can look, yet you will not find His name there, yet because of the Old Testament, over a billion people call Jesus Christ Lord today.

[JohnJLethal]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

Do you recall reading the name Jesus Christ in the Old Testament? You can look, yet you will not find His name there, yet because of the Old Testament, over a billion people call Jesus Christ Lord today.

We do read the name Jesus in the New Testament. Are you trying to conclude there is a New, New Testament coming down the pike that references America? I don't see American in the Old, New Testament.

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by JohnJLethal

We do read the name Jesus in the New Testament. Are you trying to conclude there is a New, New Testament coming down the pike that references America? I don't see American in the Old, New Testament.

Do you understand that without the Old Testament, there never would of been a New Testament? And do you understand that even though the name Jesus Christ does not appear in the Old Testament, He is spoken of in the Old Testament in at least 300 prophecies? Because if you understand this, then you will understand that the United States is spoken of in the Old Testament in the same way. The name America will not be found there, yet the prophecies clearly speak of America. According to the Scriptures, Jerusalem is the city where one of the last wars on earth will be fought over. And God tells the Jews, to flee America, and to escape to Jerusalem. I always found it curious that the center letters in
JER(USA)LEM, just happened to represent the land the Jews were to escape from in the last days. I wonder if that was just an accident, or was that done on purpose? I don't have an answer.

[LogicIsYourFriend]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

Do you understand that without the Old Testament, there never would of been a New Testament? And do you understand that even though the name Jesus Christ does not appear in the Old Testament, He is spoken of in the Old Testament in at least 300 prophecies? Because if you understand this, then you will understand that the United States is spoken of in the Old Testament in the same way. The name America will not be found there, yet the prophecies clearly speak of America. According to the Scriptures, Jerusalem is the city where one of the last wars on earth will be fought over. And God tells the Jews, to flee America, and to escape to Jerusalem. I always found it curious that the center letters in
JER(USA)LEM, just happened to represent the land the Jews were to escape from in the last days. I wonder if that was just an accident, or was that done on purpose? I don't have an answer.

Wouldn't this require ALL the Jews to return to Jerusalem? You're going to be waiting a long time for that...

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by LogicIsYourFriend

Wouldn't this require ALL the Jews to return to Jerusalem? You're going to be waiting a long time for that...

A day of total terror is coming to America. I don't know how far off, but I believe I will see it in my lifetime. I am 58 years old. America will be threatened with war for a period of two years. There will be so much fear in America that many people not only Jews will be leaving the country and returning to the lands from once they came. The exodus of Jews and everyone else will occur in a two year period of time. Anyone left will be destroyed. America will be attacked, and all of her cities will be set on fire, and Americas end will come in one hours time. It will be the fear of war that will force the Jews, and many others to leave the country. The Bible indicates that God will incourage the Jews from all the nations to return to the land of Israel in the last days. The greatest number of Jews outside of Israel, are those found in America. It will be the fear of war that will incourage those in America to leave.

[LogicIsYourFriend]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

A day of total terror is coming to America. I don't know how far off, but I believe I will see it in my lifetime. I am 58 years old. America will be threatened with war for a period of two years. There will be so much fear in America that many people not only Jews will be leaving the country and returning to the lands from once they came. The exodus of Jews and everyone else will occur in a two year period of time. Anyone left will be destroyed. America will be attacked, and all of her cities will be set on fire, and Americas end will come in one hours time. It will be the fear of war that will force the Jews, and many others to leave the country. The Bible indicates that God will incourage the Jews from all the nations to return to the land of Israel in the last days. The greatest number of Jews outside of Israel, are those found in America. It will be the fear of war that will incourage those in America to leave.

And Christians since the earliest have thought it would happen in THEIR lifetime. Why are you special?

2 years time? Ok, so your prophecy has a time limit. Get back to me in 2 years when there are still Jews outside of Israel.

BTW, Israel is slightly smaller than New Jersey, and Israel's population is already 6 million (ref). New Jersey has a population of 8 million (ref (http://www.wnjpin.state.nj.us/OneStopCareerCenter/LaborMarketInformation/lmi25/pl94/GCT2.pdf - broken link)), and has the highest pop. density in America (ref). There are 13 million Jews in the world, and 37% live in Israel already (ref). If 9 million more Jews moved to Israel, that would mean there would be 15 million people living in Israel, which would be almost double the pop. density of NJ.