Faith and Logic (bible, quote, God, evolution)

[KMG1]

Do you think they are mutually exclusive? Why or why not?

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by KMG1

Do you think they are mutually exclusive? Why or why not?

No . . . but they are very different. Logic is for intellectual conclusions . . . faith is for spiritual convictions.

[Miami Vice]

"Without faith, nothing is possible. With it, nothing is impossible."

[kdbrich]

Why wouldn't they be compatible? Many of the same people that claim to be intellectually superior to the religious also have faith in unproven theories such as evolution.

[KMG1]

Good point kdbrich

[Oakback]

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

No . . . but they are very different. Logic is for intellectual conclusions . . . faith is for spiritual convictions.

excellent response!

if I'm able to logically prove something, faith is no longer necessary.

If God almighty came down from heaven into the middle of the superbowl, I would guess that many people would suddenly believe.
But faith would have nothing to do with it.

[SuSuSushi]

Originally Posted by Miami Vice

"Without faith, nothing is possible. With it, nothing is impossible."

I call shenanigans, if you're speaking of "faith" in the spiritual/religious sense. I have absolutely no faith that any deity exists, yet I've accomplished a lot of things in my life. How then can you justify saying that without faith, nothing is possible? There are millions of people on this planet that prove you wrong with their every breath.

[kdbrich]

Originally Posted by SuSuSushi

I call shenanigans, if you're speaking of "faith" in the spiritual/religious sense. I have absolutely no faith that any deity exists, yet I've accomplished a lot of things in my life. How then can you justify saying that without faith, nothing is possible? There are millions of people on this planet that prove you wrong with their every breath.

That might be a misquote of Hebrews 11:6

"Heb 11:6 Now without faith it is impossible to please him, for the one who approaches God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him."




-- Kind of like the old phrase "God helps those who help themselves". That's not in the Bible either...but it sure sounds like it could be if you didn't know better. Many "religious" folk like to quote that one.

[DaniMae1]

So I wonder why god made us to be thinking and reasoning creatures if it is forbiden for us to actually think and reason.....

[Roxolan]

Originally Posted by KMG1

Faith and Logic
Do you think they are mutually exclusive? Why or why not?

That depends whether the existence of God has been proven to you or not. If you believe Noah's Ark has been found, if you've witnessed a miracle or something, or if you think there is a logic-based argument that proves the existence of God, then believing is the only logical response.

If, however, you think that we don't have any solid proof yet (or that we'll never do), if God is just a "gut feeling" for you, then believing require a "leap of faith" that is not logic-based.