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Originally Posted by sherryturner
Can anyone be a Muslim? Do you have to be a certain nationality? I know nothing about Allah or the Muslim? Can others be saved? Are you born a Muslim? How do you know your Bible is right and ours is wrong? Ours says others will take from and make their own religions. What does yours say about that? I could think of many questions...I still do not see your "proof" as you say.
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Hi sherryturner
I'll explain it in terms of IT which i think would be ideal because we are deling with IT to communicate
But i am not an IT expert nor i am fluent in IT so if i make any mistakes please correct me.
I think you may have heard of Digital Signatures.
Lets see what the Wikipedia has to say about it
A digital signature or digital signature scheme is a type of asymmetric cryptography. For messages sent through an insecure channel, a properly implemented digital signature gives the receiver reason to believe the message was sent by the claimed sender. Digital signatures are equivalent to traditional handwritten signatures in many respects; properly implemented digital signatures are more difficult to forge than the handwritten type. Digital signature schemes in the sense used here are cryptographically based, and must be implemented properly to be effective....
So lets now evaluate the scriptures we talk about
The Bible, The Quran or any other scripture for that purpose
Did any one of us living today met Jesus, Muhammed, Budhdha
The answer will be NO
But how can we make sure that what we get today claiming to be from Jesus, Muhammed or Budhdha is the one which they originally communicated.
As you may know when you send a document over the internet there are very much possiblities for that to be changed in the middle of the communication before it reaches the final recipient.
Likewise we are talking of thousands of years back about the originators of these scriptures
Jesus over 2000 years ago
Muhammed over 1400 years ago
Budhdha over 2500 years ago
What is the assurance we have that to say that what we see today is the original unaltered message.
Yes you will ask me the question that thousands of years back we did not know about Digital Signatures to Protect it from being altered.
But non of the scriptures which is there today is authenticated in such away that the final reader could verify it whether it has been altered or not.
But there is one Exemption That is The Quran
It has a built in Digital Signature type of Signature embedded in to each and every letter of the Quran by the creator of this universe to protect it from humans altering it for their own benefits.
Yes I know you will not believe this but you will have to believe this miracle from the Creator of the universe who is superior than what we know about him
Say: "Praise be to Allah. He will show you His Signs and you will recognize them. Your Lord is not heedless of anything you do." (Surat an-Naml: 93)
Lets go in to a summarized detail about this miraculous code which is embedded in to the Quran
An intricate mathematical code, far beyond the ability of human intelligence, has been discovered imbedded in the fabric of the scripture. Like an ancient time capsule, it remained hidden until our knowledge grew sophisticated enough to decode its intricacies. This code was deciphered by computers.
The discovery of mathematically coded scripture assures us that the verses, words, letters and all parameters of the original scripture were written down in accordance with an intricate pattern that is clearly superhuman.
The first indication of this mathematical composition was in the 11th century by Rabbi Judah the Pious. In a book entitled STUDIES IN JEWISH MYSTICISM (Association for Jewish Studies, 1982, p. 91), Joseph Dan writes that Rabbi Judah and his disciples developed a theory that:
...the words and letters of the various prayers are not accidental, nor are they only vehicles for their literal meaning. Their order, especially their numbers, reflect a mystical harmony, a sacred divine rhythm. This mystical harmony can be discovered in historical events, directed by God; in nature, especially in the miraculous occurrences directly influenced by divine powers; and first and foremost, in the Bible. According to Rabbi Judah and the Ashkenazi Hasidic school in general, there can be nothing accidental in the Bible, not even the forms of letters, the punctuation, the vocalization, and especially-in the numerical structures-the number of certain letters, consonants or vowels in a certain verse; the number of words from the same root; the number and variety of divine names in a certain pericope, the absence of one or more letters from a chapter, and many other elements of the Scriptures besides their content.
Nine centuries after Rabbi Judah stated these elements of the code, the computer has demonstrated each of them. As detailed in this chapter and the next, the original scripture was mathematically composed in a way that encodes and guards every single one of its parameters. If the scripture were tampered with, the code would be broken.
Joseph Dan writes that Rabbi Judah was critical of the French and British Jews when they altered the morning prayer by adding a few words (Ibid., p. 88). Rabbi Judah pointed out that such an addition destroys the numerical structure of the prayer and renders it utterly nullified. He maintained that it is the "numerical combination," rather than the "meanings" of the words that effects the needed contact between the worshiper and God. Even the specific, nineteen-based, numerical system of the scripture was reported by Rabbi Judah:
The people [Jews] in France made it a custom to add [in the morning prayer] the words: " 'Ashrei temimei derekh [blessed are those who walk the righteous way]," and our Rabbi, the Pious, of blessed memory, wrote that they were completely and utterly wrong. It is all gross falsehood, because there are only nineteen times that the Holy Name is mentioned [in that portion of the morning prayer] ...and similarly you find the word 'Elohim nineteen times in the pericope of Ve-'elleh shemot.... Similarly, you find that Israel is called "sons" nineteen times, and there are many other examples. All these sets of nineteen are intricately intertwined, and they contain many secrets and esoteric meanings, which are contained in more than eight large volumes. Therefore, anyone who has the fear of God in him will not listen to the words of the Frenchmen who add the verse "'Ashrei temimei derekh," and blessed are the righteous who walk in the paths of God's Torah, for according to their additions the Holy Name is mentioned twenty times...and this is a great mistake.
Furthermore, in this section there are 152 words (152 = 19 x 8) but if you add "'Ashrei temimei derekh" there are 158 words. This is nonsense, for it is a great and hidden secret why there should be 152 words...but it cannot be explained in a short treatise. ...In order to understand this religious phenomenon, we have to take the basic contention of this treatise exactly as it is stated: every addition or omission of a word, or even of a single letter, from the sacred text of the prayers destroys the religious meaning of the prayer as a whole and is to be regarded as a grave sin, a sin which could result in eternal exile for those who commit it.... (STUDIES IN JEWISH MYSTICISM, pp. 88-89)
Do you think this is just a coincidence
Is there any such protection in any other scriptures people believe
Think Think Think
God has given you brains not only to do worldly activities. It is also for the purpose of life in this world towards the hereafter.
The teachings of the Quran is not a blind faith and the Quran itself says it
"You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them." (17:36).
Isnt it illogical for someone not to think in terms of the Quran which is a living Miracle with concrete proofs.
Where for over 1400 years no one has found a single error nor any contradictions in the Quran. Where the Bible has over 40000 according to Christian Scholars.
Isnt this a good point to start thinking over again about the faith we follow