Atheism almost like another religion with its own fundamentalists (Buddhists, Buddha, America)

[unseengundam]

Atheism seems almost very much like another religion in many way. The Atheism (not agnostic) have fundamental belief that "God does not exist". Many Atheists claim they have no religious belief. But it sure seems like they that one fundamental belief has highly was someone who believes in God.

Always, like some other religions they were much about spreading the truth, that "God doesn't exist". In fact, I seems like there some Fundamentalists are around just as there one other religion. These probably the believe they try to do whatever possible to keep religion out of society. AKA, get rid of Xmas Trees in public places and what not. There are even Atheists organization just like Churches, working the spread the TRUTH of Atheism.

Another common thing, just like Christians make fun of Atheists and of other religions, Atheists do the same. Just like Christians they demonize and denounce anyone not holding their belief.

Though Atheists may deny being religious, it sure seem to be over the years they becoming just like those they oppose.

[Roxolan]

You're making a generalisation out of a few (but very noisy) cases. Living in Europe, I can tell you that most atheists I know don't belong into any "atheist organisation" (actually, I don't think I ever saw one) and that they don't shove their belief into other people's throat. I know I don't (in real life ).

Then again, they don't suffer the same kind of pressure that those in USA. Nobody try to convert them much, a lot less problems of separation of church and state, no creationism in the classrooms... Nothing to get excited about. That's why I have to go to an American forum to have a serious debate!

[Awesomo.2000]

I posted pretty much the exact same thing on the leftist liberal nazi Skyscraperpage and I got banned from a atheist nazi moderator.

However, you are very correct. They are forming groups and "coming together" like a organized religous group.

Even if you hold the slightest thought that there might be something behind this universe than you are called names, and told to have a low intelligence by these people.

Atheist claim to follow scientific principle. Which is cool. However, even Steven Hawking, today's physics genius, claims that there is a God behind this amazing universe. Atheist don't realize that there is no scientific evidence claiming there is no God also.

[MontanaGuy]

In America atheists like myself are just a small minority of the population who don't appear to be particularly popular. We're always being reminded how arrogant we are to go against the majority and think for ourselves and how that behavior will result in eternal damnation and torture. It's not surprising to me that many atheists feel they have a right to stand up for themselves and present an alternative point of view. In a democratic society we do have that right just as religious people do and we also have the right to organize into groups of like minded individuals if we choose to do so. I don't belong to any atheist organizations and it appears to me that very few atheists do because we tend to think for ourselves and organized groups generally start to create their own dogma and rules and regulations. That isn't something that I care to be involved with and I don't think I'm the only one.

[Spotted1]

Originally Posted by unseengundam

Atheism seems almost very much like another religion in many way. The Atheism (not agnostic) have fundamental belief that "God does not exist".

OH NOEZ! The Atheisms are coming!

Originally Posted by unseengundam

Many Atheists claim they have no religious belief. But it sure seems like they that one fundamental belief has highly was someone who believes in God.

Huh? The second sentence here doesn't make any sense.

Originally Posted by unseengundam

Always, like some other religions they were much about spreading the truth, that "God doesn't exist". In fact, I seems like there some Fundamentalists are around just as there one other religion. These probably the believe they try to do whatever possible to keep religion out of society. AKA, get rid of Xmas Trees in public places and what not. There are even Atheists organization just like Churches, working the spread the TRUTH of Atheism.

I don't know if it's a truth or not. But it is my opinion, and if it's okay for someone to tell me they believe God is real, then freedom of speech & freedom of religion make it okay for me to say that gods are not real. Now, personally I think society would be alot better off without religion (who wages war on the grounds that there are no deities to fight over?), but I don't see that happening in mine or my children's lifetime. That said, as much as I believe we'd be better off without religion, I think each person has the right to practice whatever religion they see fit. If you want to worship the big toe of Saskwatch and say that your religious text is a Rachael Ray cookbook..well, who am I to not oblige?

Public places, however, are supported by the tax dollars of everybody in society. Atheists pay taxes, Christians pay taxes, Jews pay taxes, Muslims pay taxes, Hindus, Buddhists, Pagans.. They all pay taxes. Therefore, these public places should remain secular out of respect of all the members of society who pay for them to exist. Our very own constitution says that the government is not to promote one religion over another. If you only put up a nativity, but deny a buddha statue or a star of david, then you've got a violation of the constitution.

Originally Posted by unseengundam

Another common thing, just like Christians make fun of Atheists and of other religions, Atheists do the same. Just like Christians they demonize and denounce anyone not holding their belief.

Taunting is human nature. Jocks make fun of nerds and nerds make fun of jocks. But that doesn't make football or video gaming religions.

Originally Posted by unseengundam

Though Atheists may deny being religious, it sure seem to be over the years they becoming just like those they oppose.

There's far too many threads on here explaining why Atheism isn't a religion for me to waste my time. Look 'em up when you get a chance, though. Knowledge is power, after all.

[sanspeur]

Originally Posted by Awesomo.2000

I posted pretty much the exact same thing on the leftist liberal nazi Skyscraperpage and I got banned from a atheist nazi moderator.

However, you are very correct. They are forming groups and "coming together" like a organized religous group.

Even if you hold the slightest thought that there might be something behind this universe than you are called names, and told to have a low intelligence by these people.

Atheist claim to follow scientific principle. Which is cool. However, even Steven Hawking, today's physics genius, claims that there is a God behind this amazing universe. Atheist don't realize that there is no scientific evidence claiming there is no God also.

Oh really?..."What I have done is to show that it is possible for the way the universe began to be determined by the laws of science. In that case, it would not be necessary to appeal to God to decide how the universe began. This doesn't prove that there is no God, only that God is not necessary." [Stephen W. Hawking, Der Spiegel, 1989]

[Awesomo.2000]

“All the evidence shows that God was actually quite a gambler, and the universe is a great casino, where dice are thrown, and roulette wheels spin on every occasion”-Steven Hawking

[Awesomo.2000]

“If we find the answer [the unified theory], it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason -- for we would know the mind of God."”-Steven Hawking

There are many more that show that Steven Hawking is agnostic and not a strict atheist that so simply rule out the possibility of a God.

[ShepsMom]

I would like to know where are these "organized" atheists groups? I'm not aware of any. Do they erect their own churches? Do they go and pray to FSM? Where is it or what do they do?

A religion is a of way of life based on tenets (or a belief system) about the ultimate power. It is generally expressed through conducts such as prayers, rituals, or other practices, often centered upon specific supernatural and moral claims about reality (the cosmos, and human nature) which may yield a set of religious laws. Religion also encompasses ancestral or cultural traditions, writings, history, and mythology, as well as personal faith and religious experience.

If anyone willing to take a stab and explain how Atheism is a religion, i would be more then happy to sit here and read all you have to say.

[MontanaGuy]

Awesomo.2000 wrote:

I posted pretty much the exact same thing on the leftist liberal nazi Skyscraperpage and I got banned from a atheist nazi moderator.

I've been a member of that forum for a few years because I'm interested in architecture and skyscrapers. Calling it "leftist liberal nazi" seems kind of silly. There are some very intelligent members on that forum and the discussions that take place are much better than you typically find on an internet forum.