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Old 03-28-2010, 04:35 PM
 
Location: alabama
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Okay very well then...

Lets use the bible to predict the future, shall we?

PROPHECIES CONCERNING THE LAST DAYS

1. Unbelievably bloody wars ( Mt. 24:6, 7 Rev 6:2-4; 14:20)
2. Drunkeness. (Mt 24:38; Lk 17:27)
3. Illicit sex (Mt 24:38; Lk 17:27; Rev, 9;21)
4. Gross materialism (Lk 17:28; Rev 18:12-14)
5. Rise of false Messiahs and prophets (MT 24;5;11,24)
6. Horrible religious persecution of believers (Mt24;10 Rev 1616:6 , 17:6)
7. Men to hide in the caves and rocks in fear of God (Isa 2:19-21; Rev 1615-17)
8. The pangs of death to seize men, simular to those of women in labor (Isa 13:8; Jer 30;6)

There are more...and i am going to skip a few

20. Both salt waters and fresh waters to become totally polluted (Rev 8: 8-11; 11:6; 16:3,4)
21. Universal destuction of land ecology (Rev 8;7)
27. World wide drug usage (Rev. 9:21)
31. Scorching solar heat (Rev 16:8,9)
33. unchecked city wide fires (Rev 18:8,9)
34. A plauge of putrid cancerious sores (Rev 16:12)
35. The total destruction of the earth's religious ,political and economic systems (Rev 17:,8)
36. A universal dictorial rule by the antichrist (Rev 13)
37. An all out no-holds-barred attempt to destroy Israel (Rev 12:1-17)
41. Earth to be removed out of its orbit (Isa 13:13
42. The earth to be turned upside down (Isa 13:13)
THERE ARE MORE BUT I AM TIRED OF TYPING!!!!!!!
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Old 03-28-2010, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Originally Posted by mmm...mabeynot View Post
Okay very well then...

Lets use the bible to predict the future, shall we?

PROPHECIES CONCERNING THE LAST DAYS

1. Unbelievably bloody wars ( Mt. 24:6, 7 Rev 6:2-4; 14:20)
Nothing new

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2. Drunkeness. (Mt 24:38; Lk 17:27)
Always has been

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3. Illicit sex (Mt 24:38; Lk 17:27; Rev, 9;21)
Ditto

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4. Gross materialism (Lk 17:28; Rev 18:12-14)
Ditto

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5. Rise of false Messiahs and prophets (MT 24;5;11,24)
Ditto

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6. Horrible religious persecution of believers (Mt24;10 Rev 1616:6 , 17:6)
Ditto

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7. Men to hide in the caves and rocks in fear of God (Isa 2:19-21; Rev 1615-17)
When was that?

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8. The pangs of death to seize men, simular to those of women in labor (Isa 13:8; Jer 30;6)
Yeah,some forms of death always have been.

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20. Both salt waters and fresh waters to become totally polluted (Rev 8: 8-11; 11:6; 16:3,4)
Not happened

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21. Universal destuction of land ecology (Rev 8;7)
Ditto

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27. World wide drug usage (Rev. 9:21)
Ditto

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31. Scorching solar heat (Rev 16:8,9)
Did I miss it?

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33. unchecked city wide fires (Rev 18:8,9)
Always has been

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34. A plauge of putrid cancerious sores (Rev 16:12)
Missed that one too.

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35. The total destruction of the earth's religious ,political and economic systems (Rev 17:,8)
Hasn't happened

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36. A universal dictorial rule by the antichrist (Rev 13)
Ditto

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37. An all out no-holds-barred attempt to destroy Israel (Rev
Ditto

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41. Earth to be removed out of its orbit (Isa 13:13
Damn! I musta slept through that one

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42. The earth to be turned upside down (Isa 13:13)
...and that one

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THERE ARE MORE BUT I AM TIRED OF TYPING!!!!!!!
What was your point of typing what you did. All those 'predictions' are either things that were happening at the time or they haven't happened.
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Old 03-28-2010, 05:03 PM
 
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I didn't want to waste a lot of evening so pick a Bible quote at random, I picked #27.

27. World wide drug usage (Rev. 9:21)

King James

21Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

New American Standard

21. and they (A)did not repent of their murders nor of their (B)sorceries nor of their (C)immorality nor of their thefts.

Maybe it's just me, but I can't seem to find the references to drugs.
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Old 03-28-2010, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Boom!! Headshot!!!

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Old 03-28-2010, 05:18 PM
 
Location: alabama
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It hasn't happened...that is the point.. it will.

That is not using the bible to predict the bible.

The Greek for sorcories is pharmekia i.e. medication, pharmacy.
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Old 03-28-2010, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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I tried #3 Illicit sex.

27They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
KJV

Nope! Nothing about "Illicit sex" there.


#6 Horrible religious persecution of believers
10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

Nope! Nothing about "horrible religious persecution".

I think someone is pulling our chain!!
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Old 03-28-2010, 05:32 PM
 
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The Greek for sorcories is pharmekia i.e. medication, pharmacy.
Which would be great if we were reading a Greek Bible.

Anyway, that's the claim of "Christian" blogs and and websites. The only problem is that every etymology site, including Merriam-Webster, sorcery is

c.1300, from O.Fr. sorcerie, from sorcier "sorcerer," from V.L. *sortiarius, lit. "one who influences, fate, fortune," from L. sors (gen. sortis) "lot, fate, fortune" (see sort). Sorceress (late 14c.) is attested much earlier than sorcerer (1520s).
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Old 03-29-2010, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Using the Bible to prove the Bible

Kinda like the fans of a four-loss team holding up their index fingers and proclaiming, "we're #1!"
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Old 03-29-2010, 02:06 PM
 
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Why do you believe his story?
(A) Because he said "trust me" when telling his story
(B) Because I have DNA evidence, witnesses and it was caught on tape

You don't see a difference?
No difference in what you said before. You said that you can't take a criminal's story to prove his story.
I'm showing you that you take his story, you go to the places that he mentioned, you talk to the people that he referenced, you opened the mail that he sent you to find, etc, etc, etc - ALL of it checks out.
Sure - he's a criminal but this time he's telling the truth!
You took his story to prove his story - and it worked!

What difference?

You can do the same with the Bible. For instance:
The Bible mentions the kingdom of David and Solomon and that David spoke to his son - right? So some people question their very existence. What to do?
Go to the places mentioned in their story. Look for evidence. If you find it, was the story in the Bible about them true?

"A recent remarkable discovery at an archaeological excavation site at Tel Dan in northern Galilee is reported to support the historicity of David and his dynasty.
In the summer of 1993, an archaeological team, led by Professor Avraham Biran, cleared an area outside the outer gate of ancient Dan. They uncovered a paved plaza. A black basalt stone protruding from the ground was easily removed. When the stone was turned toward the afternoon sun, the letters sprang to life. "Oh, my God, we have an inscription!" Professor Biran exclaimed.
Professor Biran and his colleague, Professor Joseph Naveh of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, promptly wrote a scientific report on the inscription. Based on this report, an article in the Biblical Archaeology Review magazine, March/April 1994, reads: "It’s not often that an archaeological find makes the front page of the New York Times (to say nothing of Time magazine). But that is what happened last summer to a discovery at Tel Dan, a beautiful mound in northern Galilee, at the foot of Mt. Hermon beside one of the headwaters of the Jordan River.
"There Avraham Biran and his team of archaeologists found a remarkable inscription from the ninth century B.C.E. that refers both to the ‘House of David’ and to the ‘King of Israel.’ This is the first time that the name David has been found in any ancient inscription outside the Bible. That the inscription refers not simply to a ‘David’ but to the House of David, the dynasty of the great Israelite king, is even more remarkable.
"‘King of Israel’ is a term frequently found in the Bible, especially in the Book of Kings. This, however, may be the oldest extra-Biblical reference to Israel in Semitic script. If this inscription proves anything, it shows that both Israel and Judah, contrary to the claims of some scholarly Biblical minimizers, were important kingdoms at this time."
(The "House of David"—Fact or Fiction? w96 10/15 p. 30)

What happened? You just took the Bible and proved its story. That's all!


What's that? Now you doubt that he said the things he supposedly said?
But you do not doubt the words attributed to Napoleon nor Julius Caesar?

Here we go again!

Last edited by wilsoncole; 03-29-2010 at 02:12 PM.. Reason: quotation marks incorrect
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Old 03-29-2010, 02:28 PM
 
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[quote=BornOKThe1stTime;6800970]Jonah living in a big fish, Noah's ark, talking
Born,
You can only say you don't believe them but you cannot really say they didn't happen - can you?
If you do, then you will have to inform us about how you know it didn't happen.
That should be fair enough.
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