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Old 12-31-2008, 07:58 AM
 
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Well the Bible has never been shown to be a Book of fables or lies. So why do you assume there are fabrications in it?

I never said the Bible was a book of fables and lies (though I believe this to be true). I merely stated that it's possible for a book to have fables and still contain historical accuracies.

Why do you assume there aren't fabrications in it? You can't answer this without using the Bible to prove the Bible...which circles back to the original poster's comments.

Have a Happy New Year!
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:07 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Well we could talk about the Old Testament Jerusalems East Gate prophecies fulfillment. You know, where the Old Testament states that the orginal East Gate would survive till the end of time, and then it states that a Porch Gate would be added to it. And a porch Gate was added by non believers in the Bible, and then the prophecy stated that the Porch Gate would be sealed up, and that happened to. And it was also sealed up by non believers in the Bible. And then the prophecy stated that the Gate would remain sealed till the end of time. And even when non believers in the Bible twice tried to open the Gate they failed to do so. Proving the Bible by the hand of non believers.

Can you explain to me how the men that wrote that prophecy 1,000 years before it's fulfillment knew all of that was going to happen?
Same way that humans make history palatable - creative editting.
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Well we could talk about the Old Testament Jerusalems East Gate prophecies fulfillment. You know, where the Old Testament states that the orginal East Gate would survive till the end of time, and then it states that a Porch Gate would be added to it. And a porch Gate was added by non believers in the Bible, and then the prophecy stated that the Porch Gate would be sealed up, and that happened to. And it was also sealed up by non believers in the Bible. And then the prophecy stated that the Gate would remain sealed till the end of time. And even when non believers in the Bible twice tried to open the Gate they failed to do so. Proving the Bible by the hand of non believers.

Can you explain to me how the men that wrote that prophecy 1,000 years before it's fulfillment knew all of that was going to happen?
I don't know Campbell ... sounds a little sketchy....


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Old 12-31-2008, 08:38 AM
 
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I don't know Campbell ... sounds a little sketchy....


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I'm sure 'Daddy' *cough* Campbell appreciates the links, but I don't think that's the point of this thread.

Okay, I could be wrong
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:42 AM
 
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And you have faith that your "science, logic, and hard evidence" are correct. Otherwise, of what value are they?
The idea that trusting science requires faith demonstrates a lack in understanding of the scientific process. There is no peer review of religious dogma. There is no discussion about it's validity. However scientific theory stands against peer review and endless scrutiny and revision.

I would trust science that has evidence supporting it over religion, a power tool of the dark ages, any day.

Which brings us back to the point of this post. The evidence against there being a space god that knows our thoughts is great. Using the bible to justify the claims of Christianity is circular logic. If I ask a question about a passage in the bible Christian apologists come back at me with a bible verse (usually one that doesn't make sense). Why cant they find some REAL evidence?
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Old 12-31-2008, 09:21 AM
 
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I'm sure 'Daddy' *cough* Campbell appreciates the links, but I don't think that's the point of this thread.

Okay, I could be wrong

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Old 12-31-2008, 04:47 PM
 
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I never said the Bible was a book of fables and lies (though I believe this to be true). I merely stated that it's possible for a book to have fables and still contain historical accuracies.

Why do you assume there aren't fabrications in it? You can't answer this without using the Bible to prove the Bible...which circles back to the original poster's comments.

Have a Happy New Year!
The reason I do not assume the Bible has fabrications, is because there has been no evidence presented to show this. If you have any evidence of Biblical fabrications, could you post it? If you can't, then why do you believe the Bible has fabrications? Especially if you can't present any evidence that suggest it does.
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Old 12-31-2008, 04:55 PM
 
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All ya gotta do is read it Campbell. There are literally hundreds of things in the bible that are not even possible...The bible itself proves that there are fabrications, and silly ones at that.

Perhaps that could be a new thread....Using the bible to disprove the bible.
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Old 12-31-2008, 10:27 PM
 
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Old 12-31-2008, 10:30 PM
 
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Don't tell me you don't have a bible?
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