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Old 12-31-2008, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Look out your window.......
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Default Inauguration Lawsuit By Athiests

Lawsuit seeks to take 'so help me God' out of inaugural - CNN.com

Thoughts? I find this a bit extreme and only further smearing the label of "athiest". If Obama wants to say "so help me God" then so be it - his choice not mine.

This is the stuff that only deepens the rift between us....can't we all just get along?
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Montrose, CA
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Lawsuit seeks to take 'so help me God' out of inaugural - CNN.com

Thoughts? I find this a bit extreme and only further smearing the label of "athiest". If Obama wants to say "so help me God" then so be it - his choice not mine.

This is the stuff that only deepens the rift between us....can't we all just get along?
Religion in government deepens the rift between us. Can't we all just leave it at home where it belongs?
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:14 PM
 
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I personally would like them to bring confessional booth to the inauguration, and have Obama confess all his sins before being sworn in.

Hell, we should baptise him too, just to make sure.
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Brussels, Belgium
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It does sound like a violation of the Constitution (though I'm no specialist of course), so I agree that it should be removed from the oath, if only for the symbolism.
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Newdow and other plaintiffs say they want to watch the inaugural either in person or on television. As atheists, they contend, having to watch a ceremony with religious components will make them feel excluded and stigmatized.
"Plaintiffs are placed in the untenable position of having to choose between not watching the presidential inauguration or being forced to countenance endorsements of purely religious notions that they expressly deny," according to the lawsuit.
Now that is going a bit too far. I suppose they have to say that to improve their chances in the lawsuit.
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An advance copy of the lawsuit was posted online by Michael Newdow, a California doctor and lawyer who has filed similar and unsuccessful suits over inauguration ceremonies in 2001 and 2005. [...]
He acknowledged that his suit is unlikely to be successful.
"I have no doubt I'll lose," he said, adding that he hoped to eventually succeed through appeals and hoped future inauguration ceremonies would exclude religious references.
Too bad. I would be curious of the reactions from the religious crowd if he do win the lawsuit.
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Montrose, CA
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Yeah I think the actual wording of the lawsuit is ridiculous. I wouldn't mind the mention of god being taken out, but it certainly wouldn't keep me from watching the inauguration, or make me burst into flames when I heard it.
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Suppose that at the conclusion of the inaugural ceremony, newly minted President Obama raises a fist in the air and declares, "Power to the people!" or "Right on!" or something like that (not that I think he'd actually do such a thing). Can you imagine the kinds of threads we'd be seeing here?
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:37 PM
 
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I hate when people get ticked off over the use of the word "God".

I will mention I am a strong supporter of the seperation of church and state, and also gave up Christainity around 10.

However, I still believe the word "God" can be a abstract word with a different meaning to everybody. I still believe in a "God". Is it the Christain God portrayed by a Old Dude with a white beard and a magic wand floating on a cloud? No. However, I believe that this universe and everybody's consiousness adds up to one huge bleepin thing that is so imaginably great that a common human couldn't even rationalize how complex it is. In my idea this is "God". I'm cool with the word. You can keep it on my money, in the pledge, and say it at court.
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The mention of god in the inaugration, pledge of allegiance, etc... dosen't really bother me that much. But having a clergymann performing a part in the ceremony makes it look as though the government is endorsing one specific religion, which i have a bit of an issue with.
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:43 PM
 
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Whatever happened to freedom of speech, hey folks the man is supposed to be a Christian and I'm sure that nobody is twisting his arm to make him say those words, I mean after all the choice is his. I'm not a Christian, nor am I an atheist, so he's not offending me in the least little bit, I don't see what the big deal is. Come on people how about using some common sense here....
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:50 PM
 
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I just have a problem that you HAVE to be Christian to become president in this country. I believe that nobody should have to admit their religious associations to run for president. This last election was just downright scarry with the muslim comments and "he aint no Christian" speech from these hicks on youtube that belong to the lower end of the gene pool. Take your Christainity and keep it in your Church and your house. But don't bring it too a government election.

Now I have admited above that I have no problem with the word God though. He's cool.
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