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Old 12-15-2011, 08:13 AM
 
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You can't break the bloodline that goes all the way back to Abraham and Sarah.

Yes you can.

If a Jewish person marries a non Jew the children born to a non Jewish mother will not be Jewish.

Judaism is inherited through the mother.
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:23 AM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:25 AM
 
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Yes you can.

If a Jewish person marries a non Jew the children born to a non Jewish mother will not be Jewish.

Judaism is inherited through the mother.
This may be the case in modern times, in certain circles - but it wasn't the case in the distant past.

This "mother inheritance" argument is frequently used to excuse the genealogies used for Jesus in Matthew and Luke - they bloodline is traced via Joseph, which creates a problem when the virgin-birth is insisted on. Then, an aplogist will naturally appeal to Mary's side of the family, using the "mother-inheritance" argument.

But was this more modern idea the case at the time? Hmm..
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:25 AM
 
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Yes you can.

If a Jewish person marries a non Jew the children born to a non Jewish mother will not be Jewish.

Judaism is inherited through the mother.
What if the non Jewish is the Father?
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:28 AM
 
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What if the non Jewish is the Father?
Did you read my post?


Judaism is passed through the mother. The only way a child is born Jewish is if the mother is Jewish.
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:31 AM
 
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The hatred is coming from you.

As to anti-semitic attacks against us, you are right there are not many. But there have been enough that we lock our buildings to keep ourselves and our children safe.

There have been enough attacks against us so we know that we are never 100% safe even in this country. If you have never lived with this you will never understand.

So 80% of Americans worship G-d, the G-d of the Bible, the G-d of the Old Testament and New Testament.

The G-d of the Old Testament Also found in the Hebrew Scripture which is where the Old Testament comes from.

So you don't worship the same G-d the Jewish people worship? Then why in the world do you care so much what your Old Testament says? You use it to prove your New Testament.

Christians are always talking about the Judeo/Christian values they have..
The Jewish Population in America is safer than the Jewish Population In Israel , and the Lion Share of their's Defense Comes From The USA.
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:32 AM
 
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A rather difficult question, I understand simply because the bible is divided into the Old and New Testament..With Christians basing most of their beliefs on the New Testament and the divinity of Christ and our Jewish folks whose religion is based on the OT scriptures..
That may be true from a Christian perspective, but not from a Jewish perspective.

The Jewish view is that there is no "Old Testament" and "New Testament".

The term "Old Testament" indicates that the Bible has been replaced or superseded (supersessionism) by a "New Testament", the Christian Bible, something that Jews do not accept as true.

Traditional Judaism does not accept that the Bible, or if you prefer, the Jewish Bible, has been replaced or superseded by the Christian Bible, and that, according to Maimonides (Rabbi Moses ben Maimon, otherwise known by the acronym Rambam, 1135-1204 C.E.), "The Written Torah (first 5 books of the Bible) and Oral Torah (teachings now contained in the Talmud and other writings) were given to Moses and there will be no other Torah. (Source: Rambam's thirteen principles of faith)
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:33 AM
 
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Did you read my post?


Judaism is passed through the mother. The only way a child is born Jewish is if the mother is Jewish.
so the Father is Christian and the Mother Is Jewish and the Children are raised to be Christian ( Are The Kids Jewish Or Christian).
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:38 AM
 
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This "mother inheritance" argument is frequently used to excuse the genealogies used for Jesus in Matthew and Luke - they bloodline is traced via Joseph, which creates a problem when the virgin-birth is insisted on. Then, an aplogist will naturally appeal to Mary's side of the family, using the "mother-inheritance" argument.
Judaism is inherited through the mother; tribe (and royalty) through the father,
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:42 AM
 
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so the Father is Christian and the Mother Is Jewish and the Children are raised to be Christian ( Are The Kids Jewish Or Christian).
That depends: up until their Bar or Bat Mitzvah, their sins are borne by, in this case, the mother. After Bar or Bat Mitzvah, their sins are borne by themselves.

Bar or Bat Mitzvah is a chronological event: 13 years for a boy and 12 years for a girl or, in some communities, for a boy whose father has predeceased him.
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