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Jews were the tempory people of GOD during the Old Testament , which had permanent promises made to them by GOD - land , riches , divine protection from the Lord GOD. Today The Jews can not partake in the promise of everlasting life and the kingdom of heaven without being saved thur and by the Name And Personhood of JESUS The (CHRIST) which is his Tittle.
Jews were the tempory people of GOD during the Old Testament ...
The term "Old Testament" indicates that the Bible has been replaced or superseded (supersessionism) by a "New Testament", the Christian Bible, and Judaism does not accept that the Bible, or if you prefer, the Jewish Bible, has been replaced or superseded by the Christian Bible.
According to Maimonides (Rabbi Moses ben Maimon, otherwise known by the acronym Rambam, 1135-1204 C.E.), "The Written Torah (first 5 books of the Bible) and Oral Torah (teachings now contained in the Talmud and other writings) were given to Moses and there will be no other Torah. (Source: Rambam's thirteen principles of faith)
The term "Old Testament" indicates that the Bible has been replaced or superseded (supersessionism) by a "New Testament", the Christian Bible, and Judaism does not accept that the Bible, or if you prefer, the Jewish Bible, has been replaced or superseded by the Christian Bible.
According to Maimonides (Rabbi Moses ben Maimon, otherwise known by the acronym Rambam, 1135-1204 C.E.), "The Written Torah (first 5 books of the Bible) and Oral Torah (teachings now contained in the Talmud and other writings) were given to Moses and there will be no other Torah. (Source: Rambam's thirteen principles of faith)
I understand your position on this , and in your eye's there is not a " New Testament " and you are still waiting on the ( CHRIST )....
Jews were the tempory people of GOD during the Old Testament , which had permanent promises made to them by GOD - land , riches , divine protection from the Lord GOD. Today The Jews can not partake in the promise of everlasting life and the kingdom of heaven without being saved thur and by the Name And Personhood of JESUS The (CHRIST) which is his Tittle.
There is a big difference between the Christian Christ (Messiah) and the Jewish Moshiach.
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The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page. -- Judaism 101: Mashiach: The Messiah
The word "almah" in biblical Hebrew means "young woman." The Hebrew word for virgin is "betulah." This is supported by Isaiah 37.22, where the word betulah is used to denote a virgin.
There are several other reasons why Isaiah 7.14 could not have been referring to Jesus:
1 - The event spoken of in Isaiah 7 is that of the king Ahaz seeking comfort due to the alliance of Rezin, king of Aram, and Pekah, son of the king of Israel, against him. It makes no sense whatsoever that the sign of comfort G-d gives Ahaz would be the birth of Jesus some 700 years later.
2 - In Isaiah 7.14, the woman who bore the child was supposed to call him "Immanuel," not "Jesus."
As for #1, the comfort could have been the hope of Christ in what He would bring, an eventual end to all sin/suffering, kind of like when God told Adam/Eve in the garden that despite their mistake, He had a plan that would restore all things in the end. that end didn't happen in their lifetime, but it gave them the hope to continue on.
On point #2, the text says he will be called Immanuel, it doesnt say He shall be named Immanuel. If I were to call you Susan, it would not make your name Susan, however, it would make correct a prophecy declaring that you shall be called Susan. Christ was, is, and forever shall be "God With us".
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Originally Posted by Walter Greenspan
No, you didn't.
There is a big difference between the Christian Christ (Messiah) and the Jewish Moshiach.
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The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page. -- Judaism 101: Mashiach: The Messiah
What then is the Jewish perspective on Isaiah 53?
I sincerely ask this question to legitimately understand the other perspective, not to be argumentative.
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