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Old 01-24-2009, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Tennessee/Michigan
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Disgraced pastor's former church paid settlement to young volunteer

DENVER - Disgraced evangelical leader Ted Haggard's former church disclosed Friday that the gay-sex scandal that caused his downfall extends to a young male church volunteer who reported having a sexual relationship with Haggard a revelation that comes as Haggard tries to repair his public image.

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Old 02-15-2009, 04:05 PM
 
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Stepson of 'family values' televangelist busted | News Story on 365gay.com

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The stepson of megachurch pastor T.D. Jakes has been arrested on an indecent exposure charge. Dallas police say Jermaine Jakes is accused of exposing himself to two undercover vice detectives last month. He turned himself in Thursday and was released on a $1,000 personal recognizance bond.
Yet another one caught.... Isn't it about time we accept that homosexuality is natural and stop making people live in lies? These types of events probably wouldn't occur if closet gay folks didn't feel like this was the only way to deal with their feelings out of fear of wanting to stay in the closet. It's amazing the damage the fundamentalists do at times.......
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Old 02-15-2009, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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How does, if these guys do homo-sex acts then it must be natural come about?

These people get caught up in self-righteousness, and disrespect their self imposed positions by acting like the mouth piece of God and somehow that makes Gay sex okay???????


godspeed,

freedom
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Old 02-15-2009, 04:33 PM
 
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Why is a priest coming out of the closet such a big deal??
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Old 02-15-2009, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Ruidoso NM
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The act of homosexuality is a perversion and should be viewed as such. The act and the person are two different things. The person is not the act of homosexuality. Ted Haggard may have been a great man of God, I do not know him but it is his desire for the perverse that caused his downfall. His lust controlled him. And he did not turn that over to God for his help, to overcome it.


1Cr 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 1Cr 6:10 nor thieves, nor {the} covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 1Cr 6:11 SUCH WERE SOME OF YOU; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

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Old 02-15-2009, 05:30 PM
 
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How does, if these guys do homo-sex acts then it must be natural come about?

These people get caught up in self-righteousness, and disrespect their self imposed positions by acting like the mouth piece of God and somehow that makes Gay sex okay???????


godspeed,

freedom
Although I hate to respond to a troll I'll say it again......Many gay men are shamed into living lives of lies because they can't be honest with themselves about being gay. They can't be honest because of people like you who constantly remind them that what they are doing is horrible and that they will burn in hell for eternity. There's people who will try to belittle, harm, or kill folks for being gay so of course many won't be honest about it. They are forced to repress these feelings and can't have real relationships out in the open and fear being caught for being 'gay'. They lead dishonest lives and the only way they feel that they can connect is to hook up randomly because they feel nobody will find out (once again hiding from who they are). If society didn't make homosexuality a big deal, people weren't murdered over it, and could live normal lives in same sex relationships you wouldn't see men soliciting gay sex in public bathrooms. The majority of out gay men do not partake in this behavior. It's the in the closet husbands or repressed haters who do these activities. If gay men could be out and not live in fear you wouldn't see this behavior happening like it currently does in our world.
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Old 02-15-2009, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Although I hate to respond to a troll I'll say it again......Many gay men are shamed into living lives of lies because they can't be honest with themselves about being gay. They can't be honest because of people like you who constantly remind them that what they are doing is horrible and that they will burn in hell for eternity.
I wouldn't be concerned with my opinion, i have no bearing on judgement day.

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There's people who will try to belittle, harm, or kill folks for being gay so of course many won't be honest about it. They are forced to repress these feelings and can't have real relationships out in the open and fear being caught for being 'gay'. They lead dishonest lives and the only way they feel that they can connect is to hook up randomly because they feel nobody will find out (once again hiding from who they are). If society didn't make homosexuality a big deal, people weren't murdered over it, and could live normal lives in same sex relationships you wouldn't see men soliciting gay sex in public bathrooms.
First of all there is nothing normal about two men having homo-sex, and i don't advocate violence or hate. I have a right to my belief and my opinion.
If the OP didn't want a discussion pro and con, he shouldn't have put it on a public forum.

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The majority of out gay men do not partake in this behavior. It's the in the closet husbands or repressed haters who do these activities. If gay men could be out and not live in fear you wouldn't see this behavior happening like it currently does in our world.
Apparently not.


godspeed,

freedom
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Old 02-15-2009, 05:38 PM
 
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So typical Freedom.......so typical.........
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:30 PM
 
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The act of homosexuality is a perversion and should be viewed as such.
Homosexuality, in and of it's self, is not a bad thing...having a thousand sex partners is spiritualy damaging, but that goes for straight or gay people. What consenting adults do behind closed doors is their own business, and I don't see what is "sinful" about two adult people loving eachother and being true to eachother.

The real perversion is worshipping satan, your creator.

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Their chief is blind; because of his power and his ignorance and his arrogance he said, with his power, "It is I who am God; there is none apart from me." When he said this, he sinned against the entirety. And this speech got up to incorruptibility; then there was a voice that came forth from incorruptibility, saying, "You are mistaken, Samael" - which is, "god of the blind."
-The Hypostasis of the Archons
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Old 02-16-2009, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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How does, if these guys do homo-sex acts then it must be natural come about?

These people get caught up in self-righteousness, and disrespect their self imposed positions by acting like the mouth piece of God and somehow that makes Gay sex okay???????


godspeed,

freedom
I might have known I'd find you on this thread...I one is gay that is the only kind of sex that is ok, and it is just as natural as straight sex.
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