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I accept that, but not that god created it as pointed out in the link I posted.
The only difference is the name you use for God, sanspeur . . . you use "Nature" . . . but it isn't any less an enigma (it "just is") or omnipresent or powerful (violated any of the laws lately).
I guess I should have clarified from the start and prefaced this whole thread title with something like "For those who believe in God" so as to (hopefully) avoid yet another theists vs atheists ping-pong match or similarly very broad discussions well off topic. I was simply hoping to discuss w/those who do believe God exists the possibility that nobody goes to Hell forever when they die, ie the whole justice vs forgiveness thing, etc etc. Should've known better, I guess.
I guess I should have clarified from the start and prefaced this whole thread title with something like "For those who believe in God" so as to (hopefully) avoid yet another theists vs atheists ping-pong match or similarly very broad discussions well off topic. I was simply hoping to discuss w/those who do believe God exists the possibility that nobody goes to Hell forever when they die, ie the whole justice vs forgiveness thing, etc etc. Should've known better, I guess.
And you can guess the punishment for not knowing better, right?
DFW123 -Where did the idea that a self-employed person has no boss come from. I wasn't in business very long before I figured out that what what my customer told me they wanted done was basically my orders.
DFW123 -Where did the idea that a self-employed person has no boss come from. I wasn't in business very long before I figured out that what what my customer told me they wanted done was basically my orders.
Then, you consider your customers as boss. I was using a narrower definition.
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