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Old 01-28-2009, 02:24 PM
 
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Sorry, but this is just wondering if that something must come from something and God is something...then where did God come from?
This is kind of a response to "If not for creation..." Is it that hard to admit that religion is not science? I am not saying that there is anything wrong with religion, but rather that religion is not science. It is religion.
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Old 01-28-2009, 02:30 PM
 
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The argument against existence of God known as infinite regress
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Old 01-28-2009, 02:41 PM
 
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I am seeking for an arguement for God along the same lines as an arguement for science. The something from nothing.
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Old 01-28-2009, 02:43 PM
 
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Time is a result of our universe. Can time possibly be finite? Wouldn't it take time for there to be something before time? The only logical conclusion is the universe always existed. The same can be said about god. Personally I beleive they are the same thing.
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Old 01-28-2009, 02:53 PM
 
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So God and time are the universe are the same? Well, where did God come from?
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Old 01-28-2009, 03:11 PM
 
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There are some evolutionists who believe that the universe has always existed, that it had no beginning, that it just has always been. If one can believe that of the universe, then why is it so hard to understand the Christian belief that God has always existed? He has no beginning and He will have no end, He is eternal.
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Old 01-28-2009, 03:12 PM
 
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No I believe god and the universe are the same thing. But if god created time, or if time is a result of the universe it is impossible for there to be anything before them. I know it's a little tough to grasp but there wasn't a before the universe. Like what Steven hawking said, asking what was before the big bang is like asking what's north of the north pole.
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Old 01-28-2009, 03:15 PM
 
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not every thing can have a scientific justification even if it has

for example the stick of Moses changed into snake .
is this can be done scientifically ?

Moses divided the sea and you could see walls of water that challenge the gravity
even if this can be done scientifically it needs tools and time but prophet Moses had nothing except the rod
so do not say who created God
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Old 01-28-2009, 03:21 PM
 
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Sorry, but this is just wondering if that something must come from something and God is something...then where did God come from?
God is "something".. but not something made of matter.

God invented matter, time and space. All we see, and touch was made of matter invented by Him. He already existed.
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Old 01-28-2009, 04:30 PM
 
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All of this is making my brain explode

Does it matter? No human will ever know what it is or where it came from, what it means, why any of it (or us) are here...unless, of course, that human is a Christian or other religion who believes that God Made It All (I do not). Personally, I think Disney made it
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