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Old 01-29-2009, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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You've only proven my point. Drunk with Man's knowledge and unable to see the wisdom of God's ways, which are not man's ways.

I think the Enola Gay disproves your point on primitive vs. advanced societies being more destructive.

godspeed.

freedom
I don't think so, the Enola Gay is a piker compared to this....Africans are not an advanced society, but they are very religious. We are talking just a few years ago here, not 60.

The Second Congo War, also known as Africa's World War and the Great War of Africa, began in August 1998 in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (formerly called Zaire), and officially ended in July 2003 when the Transitional Government of the Democratic Republic of the Congo took power (though hostilities continue to this day). The largest war in modern African history, it directly involved eight African nations, as well as about 25 armed groups. By 2008 the war and its aftermath had killed 5.4 million people.

Second Congo War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-29-2009, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC, USA (mostly)
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Sorry freedom your theory is full of holes...The more primitive and backward society is the more violent they are, and the more religious as well....History will show you that fact.
I understand part of your POV, but what about Adolf Hitler's Germany, arguably the most educated, innovative and advanced society in the world at that time? Systematically slaughtering millions of completely innocent people isn't too violent?
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Old 01-29-2009, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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do i recall this correctly -

90 odd percent materialist positivist vs.

?? religious negativist (not meaning to insult you, freedom )

needs a lot of fine tuning here, imho.
None taken; it just shows how group think has taken hold of our planet.


godspeed,

freedom
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Old 01-29-2009, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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I don't think so, the Enola Gay is a piker compared to this....Africans are not an advanced society, but they are very religious. We are talking just a few years ago here, not 60.

The Second Congo War, also known as Africa's World War and the Great War of Africa, began in August 1998 in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (formerly called Zaire), and officially ended in July 2003 when the Transitional Government of the Democratic Republic of the Congo took power (though hostilities continue to this day). The largest war in modern African history, it directly involved eight African nations, as well as about 25 armed groups. By 2008 the war and its aftermath had killed 5.4 million people.

Second Congo War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Short sighted, it took quite a bit of technology to produce the weapons that turned the balance of power, let alone the financial and political educations to produce a horrible outcome, and as to the Congo, the resources are what they are fighting over, not religion. Behind every soldier lies a Oxford, Harvard, educated type to promote hate.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 01-29-2009, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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Frankly I'm surprised Kentucky's not higher on the list. I do love my state, but plenty of my friends tell me I do not belong here. lol
It's actually on the list and tied for number 10 with Texas. I think following close behind you'd probably find Kansas, Missouri and possibly Indiana, which is one of the most conservative northern states. My brother lives up there. One thing that surprises me is that Utah is not on the list because it's definitely a very religious state which of course is mostly Mormon.
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Old 01-29-2009, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Short sighted, it took quite a bit of technology to produce the weapons that turned the balance of power, let alone the financial and political educations to produce a horrible outcome, and as to the Congo, the resources are what they are fighting over, not religion. Behind every soldier lies a Oxford, Harvard, educated type to promote hate.

godspeed,

freedom
Who cares what they are fighting over. That is not the point. The point is that the more religious countries seem to be the ones most often involved in wars for what ever reason...Take a look at the history of your own country. The hatred stems a lot more from religious differences than anything else. Secular countries tend to not get involved in these conflicts do they.
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Old 01-29-2009, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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The hatred stems a lot more from religious differences than anything else. Secular countries tend to not get involved in these conflicts do they.
That's an excellent point. Some of the most peaceful nations on earth are the least religious such as Sweden as well as most of northern Europe. If you look at all of the hot spots in terms of violence virtually all of them have large populations of religious extremists.
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Old 01-29-2009, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Who cares what they are fighting over. That is not the point. The point is that the more religious countries seem to be the ones most often involved in wars for what ever reason...Take a look at the history of your own country. The hatred stems a lot more from religious differences than anything else. Secular countries tend to not get involved in these conflicts do they.
yeh most countries that breath air have the most wars....

Come on, just because most people have a belief, doesn't mean religious belief is the cause....


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freedom
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Old 01-29-2009, 05:12 PM
 
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I think this was discussed before.

Perhaps one should try and categorize the underlying reasons of mass and state organisation differently now.

When religions are (mis-?)used to whip up emotional support for political agendas the cognisance of which is "expertly" being withheld from people's education, what can be expected?

btw. it's a known fact, that the most liberal and wealthy countries do have significantly higher suicide rates..
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Old 01-29-2009, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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lovethetruth wrote:

Speaking of getting rich, it's interesting to note that Mississippi, which is one of the poorest states in the union and generally ranks near the bottom in terms of test scores and other indicators of education, is at the top of the heap when it comes to religion (with the exception of Troop of course). .
NUMBER ONE BABY!!!

I live in the most obese, most religious, least educated state in the nation! I'm so proud I think I could cry.

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