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Old 02-15-2009, 11:27 AM
 
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How many gods are there in your Bible?
There is only one real God spoken of in my Bible. Yet Scripture speaks of numerous false ones.
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:37 AM
 
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Thats the problem with most of the bible's 'prophecies' - a person can interpret them to suit this or that point in time whichever suits that person's views
My view has nothing to do with the prophecies fulfillment. The prophecy can only be fulfilled when it agrees with all the other prophecies that speak of it. It's like a combination lock, you can believe whatever numbers you want to. Yet, only the right numbers will open the lock. Prophecy is the same way.
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:40 AM
 
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There is only one real God spoken of in my Bible. Yet Scripture speaks of numerous false ones.
Then maybe you can explain Genesis 11 verse 7, "Come, let us go down, and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech."

Who is the us in this passage, sounds to me like there's more than one God. Who is your God talking to?
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:52 AM
 
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One Creator, known by different names from tribe to tribe,but still one Creator.
Ahh...as was written in a Hadith that God had send down messengers to every people of the world to worship only 1 God
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:59 AM
 
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Ahh...as was written in a Hadith that God had send down messengers to every people of the world to worship only 1 God
Don't know what you're Hadith is,I am assuming that it is some sort of book, Native American people have no written sacred books,our cultural and beliefs are passed on from generation to generation,individuals among us are selected and taught the sacred ways of our Creator and they have not changed from the beginning.But what you say could be true and if that is the case,then we are all worshiping the same Creator,are we not?
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Old 02-15-2009, 12:04 PM
 
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Then maybe you can explain Genesis 11 verse 7, "Come, let us go down, and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech."

Who is the us in this passage, sounds to me like there's more than one God. Who is your God talking to?
This is the reason I believe in the three in one God. In the Scriptures God speaks to the other members of the Godhead. In the Old Testament it states that God created all things, and He did this (ALONE) and (BY HIMSELF). Yet in the New Testament it tells us, that Jesus created all things. The only way such a thing could be possible, is if both the God of the Old Testament, and Jesus of the New Testament = One God.
And that is why we read in 1 John 5:7,8 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit; and these three (ARE ONE).

The (US), is the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit who all = ONE GOD.
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Old 02-15-2009, 12:14 PM
 
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This is the reason I believe in the three in one God. In the Scriptures God speaks to the other members of the Godhead. In the Old Testament it states that God created all things, and He did this (ALONE) and (BY HIMSELF). Yet in the New Testament it tells us, that Jesus created all things. The only way such a thing could be possible, is if both the God of the Old Testament, and Jesus of the New Testament = One God.
And that is why we read in 1 John 5:7,8 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit; and these three (ARE ONE).

The (US), is the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit who all = ONE GOD.
Okay, so now you're God goes around talking to himself, seems to me he needs some psychological help, I mean what god goes around talking to himself and if that were the case why would I want to believe in a crazy Christian God who goes around talking to himself.
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Old 02-15-2009, 12:37 PM
 
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Don't know what you're Hadith is,I am assuming that it is some sort of book, Native American people have no written sacred books,our cultural and beliefs are passed on from generation to generation,individuals among us are selected and taught the sacred ways of our Creator and they have not changed from the beginning.But what you say could be true and if that is the case,then we are all worshiping the same Creator,are we not?
Hadiths are a collections of Islam's prophet's sayings (lots are true, others are heresay or weak - there's a tedious process in filtering the strong hadith from the weak)
What the Messenger essentially said was that there were around 114,000++ (somewhere around that figure if im not wrong) Prophets send down by God to every society since the beginning of time. As for Messengers there were around 33 of them. The difference between these 2 is that Messengers bring forth God's book. David's Pslams, Moses' Torah, Jesus' Bible & Muhammad's Quran are among some of the more famous Books. Prophets do not have books ie they were sent as Warners or as Leaders to lead their society to worship the One true God. They were each meant for that particular society at that particular time. Maybe over the years after their deaths, their people started to put up statues of them in commerations of their good deeds which somehow then descended into Idol worship etc. Maybe Buddha could be a prophet preaching 1 God, only for his followers to later lose their way after his death...who knows?
But like you said there are other societies like the Native Americans or a few tribes in Africa who worship 1 God..no son of god or godhead etc.
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Old 02-15-2009, 01:09 PM
 
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Then maybe you can explain Genesis 11 verse 7, "Come, let us go down, and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech."

Who is the us in this passage, sounds to me like there's more than one God. Who is your God talking to?


Wow, after all that has been said here for learning, it must have been the inventors of God (ascribing to him their own evil intents..)

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Old 02-15-2009, 01:46 PM
 
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Okay, so now you're God goes around talking to himself, seems to me he needs some psychological help, I mean what god goes around talking to himself and if that were the case why would I want to believe in a crazy Christian God who goes around talking to himself.
Well it sounds crazy to you, because your concept of God is one person, yet the Bible reveals He exist as three persons. And the reason you would want to believe in Him, is because He is the only God that fulfilled the prophecies of the Old Testament. And He is the only God that can save you from sin.
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