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Old 05-17-2009, 12:33 PM
 
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I certainly hope so. There isn't a nation on earth, aside from the U.S., more worthy of being thoroughly beaten down than Israel. All that Biblical crap ought to be deposited in the nearest wastebasket, however.
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LOL. Love reading djacques...nothing but the blunt truth from djacques.
Now, lets hear an intelligent response as to exactly WHY Israel needs to be beaten down. No opinion, just facts.

Lets also hear an intelligent response as to exactly WHY America deserves to be beaten down. No opinion, just facts.

Djacques, I don't think you're capable of being objective. This ought to be entertaining.

By the way, in case you need a hint:

Objective: not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased
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Old 05-17-2009, 01:16 PM
 
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Hadn't you asked yourself , why ISRAEL refuse the 2 states solution ??
why ISRAEL killed thousand of innocent civilians in GAZA ??
Why Israel still equip parts from Syria , Lebanon and majority of Palestine ??

Yes many Arabs hate Israel but not without reason ,
when you seed hatred you yield hatred too .

Arabs give hand to Israel with a complete peace and end to war
through Arab league initiative but they ignored it

other thing , as commenter said USA has its own problems
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Old 05-17-2009, 01:38 PM
 
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Hadn't you asked yourself , why ISRAEL refuse the 2 states solution ??
why ISRAEL killed thousand of innocent civilians in GAZA ??
Why Israel still equip parts from Syria , Lebanon and majority of Palestine ??

Yes many Arabs hate Israel but not without reason ,
when you seed hatred you yield hatred too .

Arabs give hand to Israel with a complete peace and end to war
through Arab league initiative but they ignored it

other thing , as commenter said USA has its own problems
I'm not saying that Palestinians have no reason not to like Israel. I have never said that, in fact, I understand perfectly how someone born and raised in occupied Palestine (Gaza and West Bank) can really, really f--king hate Israel. And I also understand that the rest of the Arab world sees the Palestinians as their brothers and dislike the idea of an outsider messing around with them.

I'm just more inclined to support a liberal democracy than any of the various dictatorships in the Middle East. Also, Israel has submitted a number of peace deals to the Palestinians as well, but Arafat screwed it up.

Also, I would like to know what your opinion is of your Arab brothers who have killed your Arab brothers. What about Black September where Jordan killed more Palestinians in a few months than Israel has in the past 40+ years? What about Hama Massacre in Syria which may have killed over 40,000 Syrian civilians (in the name of fighting militant Islamists no less)? Do you have the same anger towards these events? If these are your brothers, you should be grateful to have an enemy like Israel which at least allows its Arab citizens to vote and run for office.

PS: I think the word you are looking for is "occupy" not "equip".
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Old 05-19-2009, 01:58 PM
 
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Hello Frank and thanks for your reply

look , even if we have dictatorships as you say and Israel is the only democracy , what is the 300 Million Arabic fault in that when born and brought up in such situation

you shall support the right thing and support your human brothers who are suffering not support Israel just it have fake democratic system .

the problem that Israel supporters worldwide and many Jews has great influence on world media and formulate the vast majority of people minds that Arabs are killers and terrorists and moving bombs while Israel is the Angel living between devils

look we want peace even Saudi king offer Israel peace and relation normalization if they accept 2 states solution and make real peace and Obama also support that , but you will see your eyes how will Israel reject Obama Ideas .

i am Egyptian we had peace with them since 1979 while Lieberman come after 30 years from the treaty to call for bombing Egypt and the high dam in Aswan just because he know that will raise his popularity prior the elections

that issue is more complex than it appears
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Old 05-19-2009, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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And how, exactly, does this thread fit in with the "Religion" forum?
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Old 05-19-2009, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Didn't the Arabs try that before? In 1967? Didn't they get a royal ass whuppin? Egypt and Jordan seem to have leanred their lessons from their humiliating defeat. The rest of the Arabs are yet to learn but they will eventually.
WOW I agree with Kev But he's right. The Jews won't go back into the boxcar willingly. If they can't stop them conventionaly, they'll nuke the Arabs before the go down.............
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Old 05-19-2009, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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The Arabs are too busy fighting each other to organize anything. There's no doubt that many of the fanatics would like to see Israel destroyed but the fact remains that Israel is one of the most formidable military powers in the world and they're very resourceful. I do think Israel has gone too far a number of times but when you're surrounded by enemies who want to drive you into the the sea it's really not surprising. I dread the consequences but I'm afraid we're much more likely to see Israel attack Iran's nuclear facilities without help from the US as opposed to the Arabs attacking Israel.
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Old 05-20-2009, 04:41 AM
 
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agree or disagree?

there are degrees of intelligence .... !!!!
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Old 05-20-2009, 06:39 AM
 
Location: OKC
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The demographic trends don't work in favor of Israel, long term. The Jews aren't reproducing fast enough, and it won't be too long before there will be a Palestinian super-majority in Israel.

So what happens then? Israel can either be a Jewish state, or a democracy, but not both. To remain a jewish state, they will have to institute an apartheid like solution to keep the Palestinians from voting. (Arabs make up about 20% of the israeli population now).
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