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Old 02-05-2009, 01:27 PM
 
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Since so many different faiths/nonbelievers have different thoughts on what happens after we die...do you think it is possible that all those different things happen? Is it possible that our "fate" is dependent on what we believe when we are alive?
I don't want this to be taken simplistically (I'm not a simple guy) . . . but taken in the abstract, given what I know and have sensed about our reality thus far . . . our expectations are not an insignificant component of what is likely to happen. Even in our physical existence our expectations play a significant role in what we experience. Not to be too dogmatic . . . but perhaps God does have many "mansions" . . .
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Old 02-05-2009, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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I was thinking the other day that this year it will have been twenty five years since my Father died. It's sad to think about but I have to acknowledge that he no longer exists and obviously can't be engaged in some sort of activity that dead people do. That's just not realistic and he didn't believe in anything like that while he was alive either. Death means the end of life, not the beginning of some new adventure or a journey to some new phase of existence. I realize it makes people feel better to believe that but there's no reason to believe there's any truth to it.
MontanaGuy, I'm not going to try to disprove anything that you just said here because I know you are a nonbeliever and I can respect that, however I want you to stop and think about how much you are like your father and I don't mean in a physical way, let's go beyond that, how about in a spiritual way, you seem to be just like him in the fact that you do not believe, maybe it's possible that a little bit of his spirit is in you, just something to think about, I know when my father passed away, and I was with him when it happened, some of his spirit is within me and it is the same with my grandfather, it's not anything that you can put your finger on and say this is it, it's more like a feeling, the way one does certain things that will remind you of that person, I believe that there is a little bit of the spirit of all of our ancestors in each and every one of us, that's just my belief and just something to think about.
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Old 02-05-2009, 03:26 PM
 
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I always wonder what do you think those you have known and loved who have died long ago are doing as we speak. I know if there is an afterlife, there must be some kind of transition period, but then what? I often think about a few friends of mine who were twins, and they committed suicide many years ago at a young age. First one, then weeks later the other followed. I often wonder if they are still together, and what would they be doing right now. What do you think goes on in the afterlife after so long?

what can be thought may just not be to the liking of much of Christendom.

only "modern science" opened doors for thoughts hitherto gone into superstition and speculation.

and the possibility to differentiate between belief and knowledge.

i prefer to leave it at this abstract level for now.
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Old 02-05-2009, 03:38 PM
 
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MontanaGuy, I'm not going to try to disprove anything that you just said here because I know you are a nonbeliever and I can respect that, however I want you to stop and think about how much you are like your father and I don't mean in a physical way, let's go beyond that, how about in a spiritual way, you seem to be just like him in the fact that you do not believe, maybe it's possible that a little bit of his spirit is in you, just something to think about, I know when my father passed away, and I was with him when it happened, some of his spirit is within me and it is the same with my grandfather, it's not anything that you can put your finger on and say this is it, it's more like a feeling, the way one does certain things that will remind you of that person, I believe that there is a little bit of the spirit of all of our ancestors in each and every one of us, that's just my belief and just something to think about.
So basically, its a way of achieving a little bit of immortality?...you're dead but a little bit of you lives on in the next generation. Then what about those who die without a progeny? I think its a human thing to want to live on even after you're gone...some turn to re-incarnation, some to the after-life while the atheists turn into recyling material (or so they would like to think)
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Old 02-05-2009, 05:54 PM
 
Location: home...finally, home .
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I was thinking the other day that this year it will have been twenty five years since my Father died. It's sad to think about but I have to acknowledge that he no longer exists .

Yes. That is true for me , too. It will be 25 years since my Dad died. It is hard to believe. Where did he go, I wonder? Can he see me (would he even want to)? I guess we will never know.
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Old 02-06-2009, 04:36 PM
 
Location: NC
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I always wonder what do you think those you have known and loved who have died long ago are doing as we speak. I know if there is an afterlife, there must be some kind of transition period, but then what? I often think about a few friends of mine who were twins, and they committed suicide many years ago at a young age. First one, then weeks later the other followed. I often wonder if they are still together, and what would they be doing right now. What do you think goes on in the afterlife after so long?
I believe that they are dead, not living anywhere, but that this is a temporary condition. They will one day rise again and death will be rendered powerless. God bless.
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