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Old 02-05-2009, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Subarctic Mountain Climate in England
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I stand by my statement. It doesn't matter what the evidence is, I believe you'll be so irrational that you won't believe it.
Well my "good" man that attitude will get you nowhere! It is just as "irrational" by the way.

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Were you the one that brought up the holocaust and other bad things that have happened? If so, you were implying that your morality is better than God's. I'm just curious on what you can base that.
Yes I did... it is a mere observation that wiping out the whole of mankind save a few so called "righteous people" is a bit more widespread than the holocuast. An observation which does not imply anything other than the way you interpreted it!

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You are rebelling against what you are told. It's ok...we all do it. At some point you'll bow the knee to Christ...either before you die when you can repent or afterward.

yes. they are sinners just like me. But w/out Christ they have nothing to pay for their sins, leaving themselves to pay for it.
Rot.

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You're convinced that you "know" that I'm wrong and you're right.
You described yourself perfectly.


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Again...my first statement up at the top stands true...I believe that you really don't CARE to understand. You're not willing to have a rational discussion about it.
I care about helping people, happiness, developing spiritually, lasting deep relationships, love, and no religion or cult with bigots claiming to "know" everything and impose it on me will get in my way!

Don't accuse me of being irrational when you yourself really claim to "know" things... I certainly haven't said I "Know" anything either in the blatant manner that you have!
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Old 02-05-2009, 03:19 PM
 
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The bible is not the word of God. Neither is the quran or the torah or any other religious book. They are all written by man. If they were all the word of God, they would all say the same thing. They don't.

As all religions, those books were invented by men. Those men just happened to have the persuasiveness to gain a lot of followers. All organized religion is man made, not God made.
the quran is the word of God

here are the proofs

Dr. Maurice Bucaille
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en...rn_science.pdf (http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_books/signal/en_quran_modern_science.pdf - broken link)

http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_books/signal/en_Quran_and_Modern_Science.pdf
Dr. Zakir

now show me your proof



and here is one more

physical proof
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Old 02-05-2009, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Subarctic Mountain Climate in England
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the quran is the word of God

here are the proofs

Dr. Maurice Bucaille
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en...rn_science.pdf (http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_books/signal/en_quran_modern_science.pdf - broken link)

http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_books/signal/en_Quran_and_Modern_Science.pdf
Dr. Zakir

now show me your proof



and here is one more

physical proof
Listen to all these religious zealouts claiming this that and the other to be the "word of God". You all know nothing or any sort, it all contradicts and confuses, it's time humans, if they really want to become "civilized", got rid of this silly archaic notion of religion altogether.

If we all shed this rubbish and work together as HUMAN beings to develop spirutally without dividing sects and doctrine maybe real progess will be made some day...
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Old 02-05-2009, 03:39 PM
 
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...You're not willing to have a rational discussion about it.
Your idea of a rational discussion is us agreeing with you. Won't happen.
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Old 02-05-2009, 03:51 PM
 
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the quran is the word of God

here are the proofs

Dr. Maurice Bucaille
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en...rn_science.pdf (http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_books/signal/en_quran_modern_science.pdf - broken link)

http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_books/signal/en_Quran_and_Modern_Science.pdf
Dr. Zakir

now show me your proof



and here is one more

physical proof
Of course it is, just like the bible and torah are. The quran is written by men just like the others are. There is nothing but men's words and that isn't proof of any kind.
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Old 02-05-2009, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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The "holy scriptures" have a missing link; exactly how did those who wrote the bible receive their instructions from god. No one can explain this with specifics.
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Old 02-05-2009, 05:06 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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The "holy scriptures" have a missing link; exactly how did those who wrote the bible receive their instructions from god. No one can explain this with specifics.
Through the Holy Spirit.
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Old 02-05-2009, 05:31 PM
 
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Through the Holy Spirit.
Sooo, I can write down all my dreams and compile them in a book and preach about them and they can be considered holy and devine and word of God? Wow, if I knew it would be so easy... .
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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Through the Holy Spirit.
How about specifics, your answer doesn't say anything.
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Old 02-05-2009, 07:00 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Sounds like a perfect description of the mental abilities of a resident of a psych ward
And to me you sound like someone who does not understand spiritual things.
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