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Old 02-13-2009, 03:32 PM
 
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Um - what would be wrong with that?
Is the person with eyes closed very stupid? If not, they could easily understand the concept with just a verbal explanation.

What's wrong with it? Well it shows:


1) That the question wasn't sincere since the person who asked the question deliberately closes his eyes and ears to the answers
2) It shows that the person who asked the question doesn't want to look at all sides of the issue
3) It shows that the person who asked the question is afraid to hear and see what he doesn't want to hear and see
4) It shows that the person who asks the question has to deliberately close his eyes and ears to the answers since the answers threaten his belief system.



For starters.
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Old 02-13-2009, 03:37 PM
 
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What's wrong with it? Well it shows:


1) That the question wasn't sincere since the person who asked the question deliberately closes his eyes and ears to the answers
2) It shows that the person who asked the question doesn't want to look at all sides of the issue
3) It shows that the person who asked the question is afraid to hear and see what he doesn't want to hear and see
4) It shows that the person who asks the question has to deliberately close his eyes and ears to the answers since the answers threaten his belief system.



For starters.
Ok - next time explain the entire scenario while proposing it, then. For starters.

Sure it might be hard to explain the world is round to someone who is determined to believe it is flat (like that wacky Christian cult, "The Flat Earth Society" or something...). But you certainly realize that "eyes closed" does not necessarily imply any of the 4 things you just listed above.
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Old 02-13-2009, 03:45 PM
 
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Ok - next time explain the entire scenario while proposing it, then. For starters.

Sure it might be hard to explain the world is round to someone who is determined to believe it is flat (like that wacky Christian cult, "The Flat Earth Society" or something...). But you certainly realize that "eyes closed" does not necessarily imply any of the 4 things you just listed above.
That's a ridiculous statement. All you have to do is keep your eyes and ears open when you ask a question. Then you won't ask us to stop prosletyzing because you don't want to hear what the bible says. Inf act, asking Christians not to recite the Word is proof positive that atheists are afraid to hear it. We don't like the fact that evolutionists teach our children that apes can turn into people. But we aren't afraid to hear that because we know it's nonsense and easily refuted.
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Old 02-13-2009, 03:48 PM
 
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That's a ridiculous statement. All you have to do is keep your eyes and ears open when you ask a question. Then you won't ask us to stop prosletyzing because you don't want to hear what the bible says. Inf act, asking Christians not to recite the Word is proof positive that atheists are afraid to hear it. We don't like the fact that evolutionists teach our children that apes can turn into people. But we aren't afraid to hear that because we know it's nonsense and easily refuted.
OK - I see what I am dealing with.
Nice knowin' ya.
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Old 02-13-2009, 03:50 PM
 
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OK - I see what I am dealing with.
Nice knowin' ya.
You've proven my point. Thanks.
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Old 02-13-2009, 04:46 PM
 
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I recommend watching the documentary film, "Banned from the Bible".
Hebrews 5:7-8 confirm Islam's claim about Jesus never got crucified and contradicts the Bible! According to the documentary film, some of Saint Peter's apocalypse were banned from the current Bible, and these Epistles contain what Islam claims - that Jesus didn't get crucified on the cross and it only appeared that he was. This banned part also says that Jesus was standing next to the cross laughing. These are the parts of the Bible that only few people in the world know about.

Hebrews 5.7 - During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.
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Old 02-13-2009, 04:59 PM
 
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That's a ridiculous statement. All you have to do is keep your eyes and ears open when you ask a question. Then you won't ask us to stop prosletyzing because you don't want to hear what the bible says. Inf act, asking Christians not to recite the Word is proof positive that atheists are afraid to hear it. We don't like the fact that evolutionists teach our children that apes can turn into people. But we aren't afraid to hear that because we know it's nonsense and easily refuted.
Actually apes do not turn into people and never have. People are just one species of ape. The great apes are the members of the biological family Hominidae which includes humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans, among others.

Meantime the science of evolution as well as evolution itself moves on...The first draft of the genome of a 38,000 year-old Neanderthal is complete, scientists announced today.

Early glimpses of the genome, which was sequenced by Svante Pääbo, of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, and colleagues, have already cast new light on the ancient human species that went extinct more than 25,000 years ago.

First draft of Neanderthal genome is unveiled - life - 12 February 2009 - New Scientist
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Old 02-14-2009, 12:41 AM
 
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So many unanswered questions in the bible. Like: Did God send Adam and Eve to Heaven or Hell for bringing sin into the world? Also, If God is so forgiving (according to the bible), why didn't God forgive Adam and Eve of their sin and restore the Garden and earth to it's original perect/sinless state? Seems like the 10,000 or so year gap between the sins of Adam and Eve, and the arrival of Jesus to "redeem" world was a lot of time wasted. Seems that could have forgiven Adam and Eve on the spot, and eliminated all of this controversy about Jesus.
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Old 02-14-2009, 05:22 AM
 
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So many unanswered questions in the bible. Like: Did God send Adam and Eve to Heaven or Hell for bringing sin into the world?
Nah, just like he promised, they just died into non-existance, just like all good atheists hope to do some day.
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Also, If God is so forgiving (according to the bible), why didn't God forgive Adam and Eve of their sin and restore the Garden and earth to it's original perect/sinless state?
Nope , that would'nt have worked either. You and the other atheist dudes/dudettes would have complained that he did'nt allow mankind enough time to prove the free-willed independance thing and he was trying to force us all to be nothing more than robots. Please read 1 MontanaGuy 1:1 "Satan's Side of the Story"
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Seems like the 10,000 or so year gap between the sins of Adam and Eve, and the arrival of Jesus to "redeem" world was a lot of time wasted.
Nope Nope Nope it was only about 4000 years. Besides, in order to teach how independent thinkers benefit or not by following or not following God's Laws, a certain amount of time had to be allowed in order for the court case to reach a number of conclusions. Yay or Nay
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Seems that could have forgiven Adam and Eve on the spot, and eliminated all of this controversy about Jesus.
Come on silly, you and I would'nt have been here if he'd done that. Did'nt you watch the "Back to the Future" movie and listen and pay attention to Doc Brown's "Space Time Continueum Theory" Thingy Gingy ???
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Old 02-14-2009, 10:10 AM
 
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What facts have I been confrounted with? I have pointed out Biblical facts, and historical discoveries that confirm those facts. Your posts are filled with empty accusations, and no content.
PLEASE, could you show me what post you have confronted me with facts that dispute my allegations?

If you wuld learn to read and to comprehend, you would not need to continue to ask for repeats of information already supplied. But then, that might lead to forcing you to think, and we can't have that now, can we?
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