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Old 02-05-2009, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Tulsa
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Here ya go.

John 5:31 "If I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is not trustworthy.

John 8:14 "Jesus answered them, "Even though I am testifying about myself, my testimony is valid because I know where I have come from and where I am going. But you do not know where I come from or where I am going."
This one is easy.

He's saying His testimony is not trustworthy or valid to them, because they did not know all about Him. But He knows it's valid.

Kinda like me saying to you... I'm not the type to bible thump you and tell you you're going to hell if you don't believe exactly the same way I do. Now to me, my testimony is true and valid, cuz I know myself. But is it to you? Or would you have to wait until you know me better, or have other witnesses come forth and say, yeah, that mzjamiedawn just isn't like that?
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:36 AM
 
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I need to chill out? So here we are, a christian telling a nonchristian what to do.
Racist. LOL.
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:37 AM
 
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LOL, that's no proof at all. Only your opinion.

So you're saying that only christians believe in God? I am here to tell you you're wrong.
You may believe in some deity, but if it's not the God of the Bible you're believing in an idol. If you're true to whatever faith/religion you believe in you'll agree that we cannot possibly agree on the nature of God.
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:38 AM
 
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I think mzjamiedawn just took a little too much for granted.

Like yourself, I'm a human being. And as it happens, I'm not Christian. And what's more, nobody can convince me that I'm consigned to hell (assuming there is such a place) because of it.
Thanks, a moment of sanity is appreciated.
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:43 AM
 
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You may believe in some deity, but if it's not the God of the Bible you're believing in an idol. If you're true to whatever faith/religion you believe in you'll agree that we cannot possibly agree on the nature of God.
Because... what, you're right and I'm wrong?

A big difference between what you believe and what I believe, is that I don't take anyone's word for it, like following men who don't know any more than I do, into the abyss.

Don't presume that you are an authority of my belief.

It's actually kind of funny you claim to follow the only real God. David Koresh and Jim Jones, not to mention all those bible thumping perverts holed up in those compounds go by the same bible as you do.

Yeah, real winners in company with you.
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:45 AM
 
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Because... what, you're right and I'm wrong?

A big difference between what you believe and what I believe, is that I don't take anyone's word for it, like following men who don't know any more than I do, into the abyss.

Don't presume that you are an authority of my belief.

How do you presume to know how I came to believe that? Not very tolerant of you to pre-judge me....
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:49 AM
 
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How do you presume to know how I came to believe that? Not very tolerant of you to pre-judge me....
Right, but it's just so christian of you to tell me what I believe in is an idol and not the real god? That's pretty arrogant, don't you think?
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:51 AM
 
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Right, but it's just so christian of you to tell me what I believe in is an idol and not the real god? That's pretty arrogant, don't you think?

Jesus commanded us to go forth and make disciples. It's very Christian of me to tell you that you are wrong, and destined for hell if you don't believe.


I don't consider it "Christian" to just let people go to hell. Sorry if that sounds arrogant. Your beef is not with me--it's with God.
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:51 AM
 
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Because... what, you're right and I'm wrong?

A big difference between what you believe and what I believe, is that I don't take anyone's word for it, like following men who don't know any more than I do, into the abyss.

Don't presume that you are an authority of my belief.

It's actually kind of funny you claim to follow the only real God. David Koresh and Jim Jones, not to mention all those bible thumping perverts holed up in those compounds go by the same bible as you do.

Yeah, real winners in company with you.
I stand by what I believe and who I believe in, and it isn't the bible.
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:52 AM
 
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Jesus commanded us to go forth and make disciples. It's very Christian of me to tell you that you are wrong, and destined for hell if you don't believe.
This is better than reading the funny paper. Jesus isn't anybody other than a man who lived a long time ago, so why would I care?
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