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Old 02-09-2009, 07:42 AM
 
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yup. I do.

I think it's the logical conclusion that any objective person would come to.
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:17 AM
 
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“I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings” Einstein
same thing
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:34 PM
 
Location: sault ste marie ontario canada
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It just blows me away that you think that you're presenting evidence that God is real because you're pointing us to this website.
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It does prove god exists, that CROSS sits on a "very thick" concrete base. Theres no humanly possible way it could have swayed without disturbing the earth or the steel itself.
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:36 PM
 
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Intelligently Designed, creatively created, ... However you want to call it?
Absolutely not.
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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That's because it was the the natural world which couldn't thus have been understood as the great chain of Being distinct from the social world of social equalization payments.
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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yup. I do.

I think it's the logical conclusion that any objective person would come to.
Logical.....*legitimate: based on known statements or events or conditions

Objective...* undistorted by emotion or personal bias; based on observable phenomena; "an objective appraisal"; "objective evidence"

Show us your observable evidence then that are based on known statements or events.
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:52 PM
 
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Logical.....*legitimate: based on known statements or events or conditions

Objective...* undistorted by emotion or personal bias; based on observable phenomena; "an objective appraisal"; "objective evidence"

Show us your observable evidence then that are based on known statements or events.

We've been through this a hundred times before. You know my thoughts on this, I know you disagree.

Bottom line is that you and I both agree in the idea of cause/effect...but you don't believe this universe had a cause.

The fact that logical absolutes exist, and are not based on time or space prove that there is a supernatural mind that is responsible for them.
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Old 02-11-2009, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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Post Religion for or against progress.

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“I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings” Einstein
I'd think that the universe, 'a brainchild', is by the duality of harmony meant that human nature depends on the analogous Causes for man from objectivity; the analogous Causes for nature from subjectivity in the religion about God (?).

Somehow religion could be about a haromonious spirit of Man. Spinoza would mean that in all of his indifference we concern ourselves that allowance of some superstition we are free to let ourselves go at duality for or against progress.
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