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Old 02-11-2009, 07:50 AM
 
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Besides a lack of hope in anything but the natural world?
Why should we have "hope" in the supernatural? We don't need it, we don't miss it, and it doesn't make us bad people to not believe in it. In fact, it makes them better people for not believing, because they know there's no second chance.
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Old 02-11-2009, 07:55 AM
 
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Besides a lack of hope in anything but the natural world? I would suggest that by not giving them any religious education you are, in fact, teaching them that there is no such thing as the supernatural.
I don't think this was part of the premise.
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Old 02-11-2009, 08:41 AM
 
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I don't think this was part of the premise.
no kidding, I'm pretty sure they HAVE given them some religious education, and this kid isn't buying any of it!
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:35 AM
 
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I think the only way to be a true believer is to be given all the options and allowed to decide for yourself what you want to believe. Indoctrinating your children at a young age will not be the way I go with my children (someday). I'll educate them on the different beliefs of people (whether it be Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, atheism, etc.) and hopefully they can come to a rational decision themselves. If they choose a religion, then that is fine, if they choose to be atheists, that is fine also.
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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There is no such thing as the supernatural, as any of my godless kids will affirm. I am proud that my kids learned to think for themselves and came to that conclusion on their own, in spite of their mother's beliefs.
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:46 AM
 
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I think the only way to be a true believer is to be given all the options and allowed to decide for yourself what you want to believe. Indoctrinating your children at a young age will not be the way I go with my children (someday). I'll educate them on the different beliefs of people (whether it be Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, atheism, etc.) and hopefully they can come to a rational decision themselves. If they choose a religion, then that is fine, if they choose to be atheists, that is fine also.
Same here. Being taught about different religions is right there with being taught about the traditions of different cultures(and not just about Christianity). A parent should be happy that their children has grown, not that they have grown to be carbon copies of them.
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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It is sad though, that your sister and her husband have apparently raised godless kids.
Actually if there is no God in the first place, which is my opinion, then all of us including you are godless. Just a thought.
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:40 PM
 
Location: in purgurtory in London
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Besides a lack of hope in anything but the natural world? I would suggest that by not giving them any religious education you are, in fact, teaching them that there is no such thing as the supernatural.
If your kid (or your nephew) were to announce that he wanted to go to church, and join a youth group, what would your reaction be? Would you be surprised? Would you in any way discourage him?

Absolutley not. I'd never discourage anyone from practising any form of religion, except one that exploits such as cults. They could worship cow dung as far as I'm concerned. I just don't think people should ram their religion down ones throat or judge others who prefer not to believe.
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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That 15-year-old may change his mind about things in time, or he may not. In either case, I think the parents need to be congratulated for raising a child capable of thinking independently.
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Old 02-11-2009, 02:00 PM
 
Location: in purgurtory in London
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That 15-year-old may change his mind about things in time, or he may not. In either case, I think the parents need to be congratulated for raising a child capable of thinking independently.
His parents were not too happy with his decision but knew there was no use forcing him.
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