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Old 02-12-2009, 02:07 PM
 
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[SIZE=4]Without a doubt, you have often heard the claim that Jesus is God, the second person in the "Holy trinity." However, the very Bible which is used as a basis for knowledge about Jesus and as the basis for doctrine within Christianity clearly belies this claim. We urge you to consult your own Bible and verify that the following conclusions are not drawn out of context:
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:03 PM
 
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I read my bible from beginning to end, and it does say that he is God. He says it Himself. God can not lie.
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:37 AM
 
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I read my bible from beginning to end, and it does say that he is God. He says it Himself. God can not lie.
so he is not son of God
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:18 PM
 
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so he is not son of God
Yes, He is the son of God and He is God. I can give you a list of names that He calls Himself if you like.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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Yes, He is the son of God and He is God. I can give you a list of names that He calls Himself if you like.
Isn't that a contradiction? God and son of God? Even now there are disagreements or confusion over that statement.. How can he be both?
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Old 02-13-2009, 02:07 PM
 
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Yes, He is the son of God and He is God. I can give you a list of names that He calls Himself if you like.
please list the verses that tell that jesus is son of God
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Old 02-13-2009, 03:06 PM
 
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Post Was Jesus God?

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." (John 1:1-4,14 RSV)

"He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation; for in Him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities - all things were created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. He is the head of the body, the church; He is the beginning, the first-born from the dead, that in everything he might be pre-eminent. For in Him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell." (Colossians 1:15-19 RSV)
Bible Study - Was Jesus God?

Everyone Knows In The Spirit World
Satan knows who and what Christ is (note that Satan actually quoted Holy Scripture to Christ!).

"And the tempter came and said to Him, "If you are the Son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread."

But He answered, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'"

Then the devil took Him to the holy city, and set Him on the pinnacle of the Temple, and said to Him, "If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down; for it is written, 'He will give His angels charge of you,' and 'On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone.'"

Jesus said to him, "Again it is written, 'You shall not tempt the Lord your God.'"

Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and the glory of them; and he said to Him, "All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me."

Then Jesus said to him, "Begone, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve.'" (Matthew 4:3-10 RSV)
Daily Bible Study - Everyone Knows In The Spirit World

The Christ is the Son of God:

"Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, "Who do men say that the Son of man is?" And they said, "Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets." He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" Simon Peter replied, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." (Matthew 16:13-16 RSV)
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Old 02-13-2009, 03:22 PM
 
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"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." (John 1:1-4,14 RSV)

"He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation; for in Him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities - all things were created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. He is the head of the body, the church; He is the beginning, the first-born from the dead, that in everything he might be pre-eminent. For in Him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell." (Colossians 1:15-19 RSV)
Bible Study - Was Jesus God?

Everyone Knows In The Spirit World
Satan knows who and what Christ is (note that Satan actually quoted Holy Scripture to Christ!).

"And the tempter came and said to Him, "If you are the Son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread."

But He answered, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'"

Then the devil took Him to the holy city, and set Him on the pinnacle of the Temple, and said to Him, "If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down; for it is written, 'He will give His angels charge of you,' and 'On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone.'"

Jesus said to him, "Again it is written, 'You shall not tempt the Lord your God.'"

Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and the glory of them; and he said to Him, "All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me."

Then Jesus said to him, "Begone, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve.'" (Matthew 4:3-10 RSV)
Daily Bible Study - Everyone Knows In The Spirit World

The Christ is the Son of God:

"Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, "Who do men say that the Son of man is?" And they said, "Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets." He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" Simon Peter replied, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." (Matthew 16:13-16 RSV)
So..is Jesus God or the son of God? If he is the son of God then obviously the father God is more powerful than the son right?
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Old 02-13-2009, 04:25 PM
 
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So..is Jesus God or the son of God? If he is the son of God then obviously the father God is more powerful than the son right?
Obsessed with power?

"And our fellowship is with The Father, and with His Son, Jesus Christ." (1 John 1:3)

Daily Bible Study - They Never Called Him "Jesus"
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Old 02-13-2009, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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Jesus is dead. Don't beleive it? Go to a church. Any church. Shout out real loud "Jesus Lives" REAL LOUD---do this over and over....maybe 1,000 times. Don't quit. For any reason.

They will call the cops and haul you away. They will not think you are speaking the truth. They will think you are crazy. The authorities know the truth: Jesus is dead.
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