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Of what use is that if you don't even bother to define god.
Since we have no way to know what the correct definition is . . . all that does is create confusion and dissension. Science should stop trying to push their definition of God (as Nature) on everyone else AS IF there were some scientific basis for it. Sorry . . . "It just is" is no explanation. Everything just follows laws the "just are" and processes that "just are" . . . is no explanation.Stop kidding yourselves and own up to our ignorance and say we don't know. Making your ignorance definition the default AS IF it were scientific is very unscientific.
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Now showing that it is possible for life to come about by itself under the right conditions is awesome. More reason to believe that Atheists are right.
"Come about by itself" makes sense to you on some level, clearly . . . but it is a preposterous non-explanation.
You mean there is no inherent reason as to why call nature god? Just preference.
It is purely preference based on the enmity produced by the schism between science and religion due to the authoritarian abuses of religion in the past. Nature is every bit a God to us as any other God . . . tried to violate any of its laws lately?
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Non-human as a start. What are you getting at?
Utterly impossible. How many "spontaneous" (just come into being) experiments are you aware of?
Scientists finally tell God they are able to create life and propose to show Him. They begin to take some dirt and God says . . ."Wait a minute . . . get your own dirt!"
It is purely preference based on the enmity produced by the schism between science and religion due to the authoritarian abuses of religion in the past.
You haven't answered my question: Why call nature god?
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Nature is every bit a God to us as any other God . . . tried to violate any of its laws lately?
Nope, god is not defined remember.
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Utterly impossible. How many "spontaneous" (just come into being) experiments are you aware of?
Dunno, how often are conditions right for life to happen? How many billions of years have we been around to observe such events?
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Scientists finally tell God they are able to create life and propose to show Him. They begin to take some dirt and God says . . ."Wait a minute . . . get your own dirt!"
God doesn't talk, heck we haven't even defined god.
You haven't answered my question: Why call nature god?
Why call God nature?
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Nope, god is not defined remember.
Neither is nature since they are identical.
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Dunno, how often are conditions right for life to happen? How many billions of years have we been around to observe such events?
I hope you are being deliberately obtuse as a joke . . . otherwise we aren't liable to get very far using intelligent discourse. You cannot have a human devised "experiment" without human input . . . get it?
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God doesn't talk, heck we haven't even defined god.
I hope you are being deliberately obtuse as a joke . . . otherwise we aren't liable to get very far using intelligent discourse. You cannot have a human devised "experiment" without human input . . . get it?
If this is your stance then you haven't bothered to find out how the experiments were carried out.
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Yes we have . . . we just have different names.
We? I'm sorry but it is you who has given attributes to god and expected us to accept them.
Language is based on consensus. God has so many different definitions, yet the definition of nature is much more agreed upon. If the word nature was replaced by God, you would anger as much if not more theists as you would atheists. The reason is that very few people define God the same way you do. When the much more prominent definitions of God lose popularity, then you can start pushing this word change.
It also seems that you are assuming the word nature means "it just happens". But the word nature, like all science, leaves the possibility of a "mover" open to individual speculation.
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