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Old 02-17-2009, 02:13 AM
 
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God says to not kill, that is a command for us. God can tell anyone to do what He likes, because He is God. He knows the end not us.
God must be the equivalent of a very inconsistent parent. You can't teach a child hitting is wrong if you command he hit his sister in order to punish her for something they both did. You would think he'd know a little more about psychology than that.
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:13 AM
 
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God must be the equivalent of a very inconsistent parent. You can't teach a child hitting is wrong if you command he hit his sister in order to punish her for something they both did. You would think he'd know a little more about psychology than that.
There is a difference between justice and assault.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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There is a difference between justice and assault.
Violence is violence.
This is why secular laws are superior to biblical morals.
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:02 AM
 
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Violence is violence.
This is why secular laws are superior to biblical morals.
no. they may have been created with good intention.. this spirit needs to be recovered. individually and collectively.
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:39 AM
 
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Violence is violence.
This is why secular laws are superior to biblical morals.

Do you believe that we should have an armed police force?

Sometimes one must use violence to protect the innocent.
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:43 AM
 
Location: PA
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I started reading and posting here on CD and I was worried about some of the questions I had about god, jesus and the bible. The point-counterpoint helped me understand and form solid understandings. Here is a quick summary of what I learned:
1. The bible is full of contradictions.
2. The concept of free will is incompatible with biblical teachings.
3. Gods concepts of morality allow slavery, torture, and hate.
4. The original bible has been lost.
5. Christians don't think enough of their own scriptures to learn the original languages.
5. Killing is ok, as long as it is a convicted person, not an embryo.
6. Christians are duplicitious: gay people go to hell (old testament citation) while slave owners (old testament citations) will not.
7. Christians confuse the icon of a cross with their creator.
8. The bible was actually assembled by a guy named Esubias (or similar) who was an employee of emporor constitine--who, by the way murdered his mother and refused to be baptised until he was on his deathbed--so he could lead a wicked life..Catholics call him "Saint" and "Pope."

I am glad that I spent the time and effort on this--I read 5 books, participated in this forum, studied Greek and Hebrew (a little). I worked as hard on this as I have ever worked on anything.

Thank you for your kind assistance and support.

I now KNOW that I do NOT need to spend time or effort in pursuing Christianity--or any other religion, as it is all just a group of enticing myths.
You appear to be confused, no true Christian believes the things you state, so you are thanking the wrong people.

Maybe you should redirect your thanks to those on this forum who helped you confirm your preconcieved belief system about God, the bible and Christianity.
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:10 AM
 
Location: PA
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Reading 5 books (about Christianity?) and studying a little Greek and Hebrew hardly constitutes a study let alone an exaustive study.

I have read hundreds of books on Christianity and Religion, not including countless readings and rereading of the Bible. I have also studied the Aramaic and the Hebrew and the Greek and various other languages of the middle east (I'll say a little myself do to the vast amounts of information concerning languages). With all this study I say that the bible is perfect. Taking into account all of the "errors" the bible is still perfect compared to other ancient manuscripts like the Illiad by Homer.

Most errors fall into several distinct categories: translation errors, name errors (name used in one Generation is prefered over an erlier name for understanding), scribe errors like writting 22 years instead of 42 years. But considering these and many other types of errors we find that the bible holds more truth than any other book.

The fact that you don't believe in a talking snake does not mean that a snake did not talk. That is a component of the bible that sometimes God exceeds the limitations of his created worlds laws. This is called the supernatural. The bible is consistant with what it states that is historical, archeological or provable, so when it talks of things that are supernatural and unprovable we can assume it is still telling the truth.
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:17 AM
 
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I have read hundreds of books on Christianity and Religion, not including countless readings and rereading of the Bible. I have also studied the Aramaic and the Hebrew and the Greek and various other languages of the middle east (I'll say a little myself do to the vast amounts of information concerning languages). With all this study I say that the bible is perfect. Taking into account all of the "errors" the bible is still perfect compared to other ancient manuscripts like the Illiad by Homer.
Why would you compare The Bible to other writings like The Iliad?
How could the "errors" in one possibly have any bearing on the other?

Practice makes permanent. Only perfect practice makes perfect. And I say you appear to have found perfection by using an imperfect practice. Sadly, the effects are permanent.
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:52 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Hey, a genocide apologist. How quaint. I wonder how well the "It wasn't really murder, your honor, because God told me to do it" defense would hold up in court.

Did you hurt yourself with all of that pretzel logic?

Nope no logic, just understand what it means!
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:53 AM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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When reading some posts the defending "The Bible", the old adage "a little knowledge is dangerous" comes to mind.
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