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Old 02-15-2009, 04:19 PM
 
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Be true to yourself and be happy. I struggled with my homosexuality till I was 24 because of religion and what society's beliefs were about the matter. I prayed for years and years to be straight, dated girls, and did anything I could to make myself straight. Nothing worked as I realized being gay was a part of who I was and that I was made that way. Science is coming close to proving that folks are born gay and God does not make mistakes (or so I hear on these forums). I knew I was gay from a very early age and never chose to be gay. I still feel very tight with my relationship with God and live my life treating others well and doing things to better the world around me. I think that is very important. I'm just sorry that you had to do damage on the forums in your previous constant attacks against homosexuality but now it makes more sense. It's hard to be gay sometimes because of the horrible distortions, lies, and mean spirited remarks made on forums/the media/in society but I'm happy to be myself and not living a lie with my life. I'm sorry to hear you are hurting but happy that you are coming to the realization that you have to accept who you are. God will still love you and I'm sure he will be happy that you are taking steps to becoming happy. It won't always be easy but you find in time that you will be happier being honest and being yourself.

 
Old 02-15-2009, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Every Sunday when I was a teenager I would go to the alter and pray about this. Every church camp revival I would get a new fire to overcome these desires. Nothing has worked. While I have a choice to not act on these desires and live a lonely celibate life, I don't have the choice to become heterosexual.
Sounds like you've made your mind up to live as a gay. Why try to come across like your still fighting it?
Just because you choose not to overcome, doesn't mean others can't or havn't.


godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 02-15-2009, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Sounds like you've made your mind up to live as a gay. Why try to come across like your still fighting it?
Just because you choose not to overcome, doesn't mean others can't or havn't.


godspeed,

freedom
Freedom,

I don't know why you persist in your antics but have you ever thought that perhaps calling someone "a gay" may sound very condescending and very uncalled for? Considering that being homosexual, or "a gay" does not constitute the individual in totality any more than calling you an ass constitutes who and what you are in totality; why must you persist with the usage of that language especially when it's very clear that this is a very trying time for someone?
 
Old 02-15-2009, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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freedom wrote:
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Sounds like you've made your mind up to live as a gay. Why try to come across like your still fighting it?
Just because you choose not to overcome, doesn't mean others can't or havn't.
I find your remarks to be in really bad taste. We have someone who has opened up their personal life to what is essentially a group of strangers because he can't open up to anyone else and he's just seeking advice and support. Then you come along and basically throw insults at him and remind him (on your earlier post) about the punishment he's bound to receive. Why?
 
Old 02-15-2009, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Here and There
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Actually people are punished for sin, and homosexuality is a sin.

godspeed,

freedom
That's your OPINION.
 
Old 02-15-2009, 05:36 PM
 
Location: LAT: 40.77 LON: 73.98
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Say Chris was to have risen to the ranks of pastor at his church while simultaneously fooling himself he can somehow pray to God to keep his very orientation under wraps (a struggle) but he "falls" one day in a "moment of weakness" (which we all have) that becomes public knowledge, guess what the resulting comments would be from both sides of the argument?
 
Old 02-15-2009, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Freedom,

I don't know why you persist in your antics but have you ever thought that perhaps calling someone "a gay" may sound very condescending and very uncalled for? Considering that being homosexual, or "a gay" does not constitute the individual in totality any more than calling you an ass constitutes who and what you are in totality; why must you persist with the usage of that language especially when it's very clear that this is a very trying time for someone?
That's hilarious coming from you troops. What do we call them this week.
I'd gladly take back the word Gay for the rest of the world, my Grandmother use to use that word to describe family gatherings and vacations... now she can't... while we are at it, give us back the rainbow, the symbol of God's mercy.

We all have trying times, if the OP didn't want to discuss it, then he should have kept it to himself, its not the first gay thread to hit CD.

godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 02-15-2009, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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freedom wrote:

I find your remarks to be in really bad taste. We have someone who has opened up their personal life to what is essentially a group of strangers because he can't open up to anyone else and he's just seeking advice and support. Then you come along and basically throw insults at him and remind him (on your earlier post) about the punishment he's bound to receive. Why?
Should i make up some false scenario for him so he will just give in to these urges and forsake his eternal inheritance... oh that's right, that means nothing to you....


godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 02-15-2009, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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Should i make up some false scenario for him so he will just give in to these urges and forsake his eternal inheritance... oh that's right, that means nothing to you....
It's true that an imaginary afterlife with angels and streets of gold means nothing to me because I know it isn't real. I was thinking in terms of actually having compassion and caring for another human being whose life is in turmoil, largely due to the insensitivity and hostility of the religious extremists in America. Freedom, I've noticed a change in the tone of your posts after many months and it's especially obvious whenever the subject of homosexuality comes up. What is it about this particular topic that causes you to sound so antagonistic? Since you believe in the human soul have you ever looked into your own soul and wondered if your words and deeds might be hurtful to others? I don't believe in the human soul but I know I don't want to be hurtful to anyone.
 
Old 02-15-2009, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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freedom wrote:

It's true that an imaginary afterlife with angels and streets of gold means nothing to me because I know it isn't real. I was thinking in terms of actually having compassion and caring for another human being whose life is in turmoil, largely due to the insensitivity and hostility of the religious extremists in America. Freedom, I've noticed a change in the tone of your posts after many months and it's especially obvious whenever the subject of homosexuality comes up. What is it about this particular topic that causes you to sound so antagonistic? Since you believe in the human soul have you ever looked into your own soul and wondered if your words and deeds might be hurtful to others? I don't believe in the human soul but I know I don't want to be hurtful to anyone.
Then anything i write will be a challenge for you to understand.

Regarding the Gay agenda, i feel it to be a freedom to speak boldly in the context of my belief, another subject you would not care to understand.

Some would feel your opinion of believers to be in poor taste, and a negative tone.
I am not being disrespectful or hurtful, that is a mischaracterization of who i am.

godspeed,

freedom
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