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Old 02-15-2009, 06:32 PM
 
Location: NC, USA
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No need to struggle with the gay guys, when approached, I just say "no thanks" and go about my business, never had any of them get pushy.

 
Old 02-15-2009, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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No need to struggle with the gay guys, when approached, I just say "no thanks" and go about my business, never had any of them get pushy.
You ever been to Palm Springs California?

godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 02-15-2009, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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bchris, you should stay true to yourself and not let anyone condemn you for it. Like others have said, moving to a bigger city would help since they're often more liberal. Most big cities have GLBT groups where you can find social support, and doing things that that you like to do would help to find friends. Alot of churches that are more liberal tend to be tolerant of homosexuality rather than condemn it like many orthodox churches. Your true friends and family will accept you for who you really are, they won't disown you or think that you're an abomination. If your friends/family will disown you or think that you're an abomination for something as menial as your sexuality, then, in my opinion, are really your true friends and family.
Hope the best for you. Agnostic.

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Old 02-15-2009, 07:15 PM
 
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Gandhi said, "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

Some Christians are accepting of all people.

Freedom, you call yourself that word but you have many constraints and chains on you, limiting yourself, not allowing yourself to be open to reality.

it seems like the people most vocal about their religion (all religions not just Christian) tend to be those who are least tolerant. Love your neighbors as yourself.

Chris, you know your family best. Perhaps once you distance yourself from your family, and live the life that God intended you to live and that is in happiness, than one day, you will be comfortable to tell your family.
 
Old 02-15-2009, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Gandhi said, "“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

Some Christians are accepting of all people.
Christ was not TOLERANT of sin, he told them to Repent, and keep His commandments. He was not accepting of the hypocrite and wicked Scribes and Pharisee's.
Ghandi knew homosexuality was a sin.

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Freedom, you call yourself that word but you have many constraints and chains on you, limiting yourself, not allowing yourself to be open to reality.

it seems like the people most vocal about their religion (all religions not just Christian) tend to be those who are least tolerant. Love your neighbors as yourself.
True freedom comes from living the teachings of Christ, it would not be in keeping with the teachings of God to say Sin and Perversion were acceptable life choices.
Knowing right from wrong is not a contradiction of being able to love people. I wish no ill will on the OP, that's why i tell him as i believe. He has already chosen what he desires to do and be, so it really doesn't matter either way.
He is just looking for others to support his choice.

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Chris, you know your family best. Perhaps once you distance yourself from your family, and live the life that God intended you to live and that is in happiness, than one day, you will be comfortable to tell your family.
Leaving loved one's over selfish sexual perversion sounds like a high price to pay for losing your soul.

godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 02-15-2009, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Michaux State Forest
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Default Be true to yourself

My heart broke when I read your post. I am not gay but when my parents divorced when I was a child, I faced much prejudice from my church. I will never forget being ostracised as a child in the name of religion.Years later, I was engaged to a man who was living a secret life. We broke up and then I discovered he was cheating on me with men. Now two people were devestated by a secret lifestyle. He is now married with kids and the lies keep on comming. I only feel sorry for him as I am sure he is miserable but in his eyes people from small town Texas can't be gay.Please find the strength to be yourself. Do not be discouraged by hypocrites pretending to be Christian. No Christian would force someone to live a life of misery to the point of suicide. Thank you for having the courage to reach out and make this post. Good luck and God bless you!
 
Old 02-15-2009, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Leaving loved one's over selfish sexual perversion sounds like a high price to pay for losing your soul.
Why would a loving God make me suffer like this? I can live a lonely life of celibacy (which is what most ex-gays do), but I can't make heterosexual desires happen that just aren't there. To try and fake it would only put me in position to be a Ted Haggard and thats the last thing I want with my life. I have prayed and prayed and prayed for God to make me straight. Every revival, every church camp, every sunday school when prayer requests were asked I asked for an unspoken, every sunday morning I went to the alter and begged God to make me straight, and it hasnt' happened. If this is God's purpose for me in life...for me to be completely alone, what point is there in even living? I know God works in mysterious ways and there are some things we won't understand on this side of death, but when I think about my life in 30 years...my family will be gone. Who will I have in this world then? I am already in my mid-20s, I still have time left but I am starting to realize that time will eventually run out and sooner than I ever expected when I was a teenager and thought I had all the time in the world. Friends can only take us so far - we were meant as humans to have intimate companionship.
 
Old 02-15-2009, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Why would a loving God make me suffer like this? I can live a lonely life of celibacy (which is what most ex-gays do), but I can't make heterosexual desires happen that just aren't there. To try and fake it would only put me in position to be a Ted Haggard and thats the last thing I want with my life. I have prayed and prayed and prayed for God to make me straight. Every revival, every church camp, every sunday school when prayer requests were asked I asked for an unspoken, every sunday morning I went to the alter and begged God to make me straight, and it hasnt' happened. If this is God's purpose for me in life...for me to be completely alone, what point is there in even living? I know God works in mysterious ways and there are some things we won't understand on this side of death, but when I think about my life in 30 years...my family will be gone. Who will I have in this world then? I am already in my mid-20s, I still have time left but I am starting to realize that time will eventually run out and sooner than I ever expected when I was a teenager and thought I had all the time in the world. Friends can only take us so far - we were meant as humans to have intimate companionship.
I don't wish to add to your genuine anguish. You are asking the One who knows and maybe He has already answered you. After reading this post, something came to me, and it is this.

Maybe you are not to be Gay or Straight, maybe asking God to be straight is not the answer either.

Here is a scripture that may be of some comfort.

Mat 19:10 His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with [his] wife, it is not good to marry.


Mat 19:11 But he said unto them, All [men] cannot receive this saying, save [they] to whom it is given.

Mat 19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from [their] mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive [it], let him receive [it].

My understanding of Eunuch is a celebate life. Maybe your calling is higher, and the world of media and sensuality is distracting and detaining you from a life of service to your Father in heaven. Maybe your lack of desire for a woman is due to a mission of chastity. Life is much more than what the world is pushing.

Maybe ask the Father if you are to remain chaste.

godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 02-15-2009, 09:58 PM
 
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bchris02,

Would you please consider contacting Exodus International - freedom from homosexuality through the power of Jesus Christ.
 
Old 02-15-2009, 10:00 PM
 
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All my life I have been struggling with homosexual desires. I was raised by a family so conservative they make Pat Robertson and Jerry Fallwell look like left wing nuts. I wouldn't put it beyond my dad to kill me if he ever found out about this. I would be disowned entirely by my family nonetheless. That said I was raised in a very conservative church just a little to the left of Westboro, where gays were usually blamed for various events as God's judgment for our nation's tolerance of homosexuality. I still believe in God however and have prayed numerous times for Him to take this burden from me, but it has not happened. In addition, I live in an extremely conservative area where it would be next to impossible for me to live as an open gay man. I would have to leave my church, friends, and family and would be completely alone. I don't think I could bear that. Not that in addition to a very possible reality that I would burn in hell for eternity for it. So I am basically stuck in a pathetic existence and I need to be prepared for a long lonely life. For whatever reason God will not lift this burden from me. To my fellow Christians, what advice do you give? I can't go to my church minister about this because I'll be excommunicated from the church. I can't go to my friends and I sure can't go to my family. I know on this board i've said some things about gays that I shouldn't have but that is due to my conservative surroundings and me fighting these desires. I apologize to those ive offended.
a) Prayers don't get answered.
b) It will do you a lot of good to get excommunicated from your church.
c) There's no God.


GOOD LUCK ANYWAY!

Maybe when you realize the above things, your life will be much better.
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