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View Poll Results: Do you believe in a "higher force" like god or something else?
Yes, i do. 18 50.00%
No i don't. 18 50.00%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-18-2009, 01:33 PM
 
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I don't believe in a higher force of any kind. Higher farce, yes...George Carlin was a god.
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:39 PM
 
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Mrs. cncracer comes close, but I donít think that is what the poster was looking for. I voted NO.
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:42 PM
 
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Yes I do! No crutch, no coincidence, I've had my prayers answered and benefited from God's love many times.
And how about the 35,000 children that starve to death every day in this world? God pays attention to super special you but doesn't give a carp about them? Give me a break.
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:45 PM
 
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I don't believe in a higher force of any kind. Higher farce, yes...George Carlin was a god.
the poll is asking for a belief without securing certitude of "higher force", so tend to stick to the farce for a while, although it may be a tragedy (my choice, i know).
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:48 PM
 
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Define farce, I mean force. An old white guy with white hair sitting in a thrown in a white cloud throwing lighting bolts at evil doers and granting favors to those who perform certain rituals and incantation?

Or how about the mysterious force that created the universe and everything around us but doesn't seem to be getting our memos about crisis, hunger, violence, accidents, poverty, illness, death, etc etc etc? I'll go with door #2.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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And how about the 35,000 children that starve to death every day in this world? God pays attention to super special you but doesn't give a carp about them? Give me a break.
God is not the author of poverty, hunger, or disease. He has given everyone a free will to choose him to be a part of their life or not. I've asked God into my life and I believe in his word. There's nothing "super special" about receiving from God.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:55 PM
 
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I am not a big fan of "power".

Who needs a bearded man in robes in the sky with lots of "higher-power"?
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:38 PM
 
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Absolutely not. I am the captain of my own destiny, and I succeed or fail on my own merits and by my own hand.
I agree with this as well, but why does that preclude believing in God? I'm not a Christian or Jew or Muslim or practitioner of any other faith, but I believe in God. I've never read the Bible in its entirety and don't plan to, don't believe the Bible is the finite word of God. I don't believe ANY of us poor *******s knows all there is to know about God. I just believe that how I believe in God works for me...and works for my relationship with God.

I don't believe that God intervenes in my life, directly or indirectly. I don't picture God as some sort of divine puppet-master, controlling all us mere mortals down on earth.

If I pray to God, I do so because I find that prayer helps me focus my thoughts so that I can find the clarity that's already there, the strength that's already in me. I don't pray to God and expect for God to provide that clarity or strength. If I pray, it's because it feels good to just say "thank you." And sometimes I pray to God because it's nice to know someone's listening when I need to "think out loud."

I don't give God credit for the great things that happen on this earth -- beyond believing that all of creation is God's creation, and so God gets a sort of top-tier credit. I don't blame God for the bad stuff that happens. I don't believe that God rewards certain folks and punishes others. I don't "let go and let God" -- except that when I'm faced with something thorny and I dig deep inside myself for the wherewithal to overcome, I'm grateful to God for that bit of Godspark.

But I still believe in God, and having a belief in God is vital for my personal well-being. Religious dogma and faith in God are not necessarily the same thing. One can have one without the other. One can be the master of one's own destiny and still believe in God.
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Old 02-20-2009, 11:30 PM
 
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Define farce, I mean force. An old white guy with white hair sitting in a thrown in a white cloud throwing lighting bolts at evil doers and granting favors to those who perform certain rituals and incantation?

Or how about the mysterious force that created the universe and everything around us but doesn't seem to be getting our memos about crisis, hunger, violence, accidents, poverty, illness, death, etc etc etc? I'll go with door #2.

Okay, if GOD is not sentient, than how the heck could it "get the memo" about violence, death, hunger etc? If the ocean does not hear the cries of someone drowning it it, does that mean that the ocean does not exist, or does it mean that it simply isn't self-aware?
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