What is Heaven? (paradise, translation, hell, Revelation)

[ulnevrwalkalone]

I need somebody to give me an actual definition of what I can expect in heaven. 71 virgins, big pearly gates?? What do u think we get in this paradise??

and dont just post something about we can never know or that we spend eternity with god I want some details!

[kdbrich]

Hard to say, actually---other than that it's in the presence of God.

It's not about 72 virgins. I think the pleasures of this world will pale in comparison.

[I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA]

No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love Him.....1 Corinthians 2:9

This world is not all there is, the best is yet to come.

[Terryj]

Originally Posted by ulnevrwalkalone

I need somebody to give me an actual definition of what I can expect in heaven. 71 virgins, big pearly gates?? What do u think we get in this paradise??

and dont just post something about we can never know or that we spend eternity with god I want some details!

The Christ said that the Kingdom of Heaven is within, if you read other holy books you pretty much come away with the same concept.
So if your seeking the kingdom of heaven, then I would suggest you start with yourself, because you will not find it in a book nor anywhere else outside of your self.
There is another teaching, when the student is ready the master will arise. Again, the master is always within ones self.

[wilvan]

In the latter chapter of Revelation we are told that after the Great White Throne Judgment... there is a New Heaven and a New Earth. It did not say the saved will be in the New Heaven... so I think the humans who are given eternal life will live on in the new earth. It will be Paradise... a Garden of Eden restored.

[moonsun]

Originally Posted by ulnevrwalkalone

I need somebody to give me an actual definition of what I can expect in heaven. 71 virgins, big pearly gates?? What do u think we get in this paradise??

and dont just post something about we can never know or that we spend eternity with god I want some details!

be practical and realistic

it is not only heaven but also there is hell

here are some verses from God ( a translation) saying that ther will three
kind of people

sura nbr 56


7 And ye will be three kinds:
8 (First) those on the right hand; what of those on the right hand?
9 And (then) those on the left hand; what of those on the left hand?
10 And the foremost in the race, the foremost in the race:

11 Those are they who will be brought nigh
12 In gardens of delight;
13 A multitude of those of old
14 And a few of those of later time.
15 On lined couches,
16 Reclining therein face to face.
17 There wait on them immortal youths
18 With bowls and ewers and a cup from a pure spring
19 Wherefrom they get no aching of the head nor any madness,
20 And fruit that they prefer
21 And flesh of fowls that they desire.
22 And (there are) fair ones with wide, lovely eyes,
23 Like unto hidden pearls,
24 Reward for what they used to do.
25 There hear they no vain speaking nor recrimination
26 (Naught) but the saying: Peace, (and again) Peace.


27 And those on the right hand; what of those on the right hand?
28 Among thornless lote-trees
29 And clustered plantains,
30 And spreading shade,
31 And water gushing,
32 And fruit in plenty
33 Neither out of reach nor yet forbidden,
34 And raised couches;
35 Lo! We have created them a (new) creation
36 And made them virgins,
37 Lovers, friends,
38 For those on the right hand;
39 A multitude of those of old
40 And a multitude of those of later time.


41 And those on the left hand: What of those on the left hand?
42 In scorching wind and scalding water
43 And shadow of black smoke,
44 Neither cool nor refreshing.
45 Lo! heretofore they were effete with luxury
46 And used to persist in the awful sin.
47 And they used to say: When we are dead and have become dust and bones, shall we then, forsooth, be raised again,
48 And also our forefathers?
49 Say (unto them, O Muhammad): Lo! those of old and those of later time
50 Will all be brought together to the tryst of an appointed day.
51 Then lo! ye, the erring, the deniers,
52 Ye verily will eat of a tree called Zaqqum
53 And will fill your bellies therewith;
54 And thereon ye will drink of boiling water,
55 Drinking even as the camel drinketh.
56 This will be their welcome on the Day of Judgment.

[mktavish]

I think in more simple terms ... Heaven equalls ever learning,changing , good times ,bad times.
Hell would be an end to the learning process , stagnent , all Knowing ...

[braderjoe]

Originally Posted by mktavish

I think in more simple terms ... Heaven equalls ever learning,changing , good times ,bad times.
Hell would be an end to the learning process , stagnent , all Knowing ...

You forget the torture, the hellfire.....

[mktavish]

so who's brand of torture is used in hell , and how hot is too hot for the hellfire / / ???

[ulnevrwalkalone]

Originally Posted by Terryj

The Christ said that the Kingdom of Heaven is within, if you read other holy books you pretty much come away with the same concept.
So if your seeking the kingdom of heaven, then I would suggest you start with yourself, because you will not find it in a book nor anywhere else outside of your self.
There is another teaching, when the student is ready the master will arise. Again, the master is always within ones self.

Interesting take, but if heaven is in me then what do I need god and all his rules for??