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Old 03-02-2009, 12:37 AM
 
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Hitler was a Catholic. He believed killing Jews was doing "God's Work".

Have a nice day.
Nice try

Do the home work there Slick, on where he got his philosophy. Google men like Eugen Fischer who along with colleagues in Southern Africa developed their racial separation and preventative cross breading policies in Namibia. Later these were adopted by Hitler, who though born Catholic and never excommunicated, was an avid atheist. Like so many politicians who blurt out they are a believer, their actions speak volumes as to their true core beliefs. The philosophical Atheistic Dogma adopted by the Nazi and Facist regimes around the world were in FACT racist research done purely from an evolutionary perspective and on work and theories believed from decades previous.

I know you won't google it, but here's just one of hundreds of links.
Martin Heidegger's Racialist Friend - Nazi Anthropologist Eugen Fischer - Athenaeum Library of Philosophy


So from a purely foundational viewpoint, no matter what an atheist viewpoint is today, it's history is as colourful and flawed as is alot of religious views of the past. While no one on either side in this forum's debate is being accused of having these extremist views, there is a definite historical attitude which sums up some modern day attitudes which still linger in the dark recesses of society's subconscious throughout the earth.

Enjoy

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Old 03-02-2009, 12:54 AM
 
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Nice try

Do the home work there Slick, on where he got his philosophy. Google men like Eugen Fischer who along with colleagues in Southern Africa developed their racial separation and preventative cross breading policies in Namibia. Later these were adopted by Hitler, who though born Catholic and never excommunicated, was an avid atheist. Like so many politicians who blurt out they are a believer, their actions speak volumes as to their true core beliefs. The philosophical Atheistic Dogma adopted by the Nazi and Facist regimes around the world were in FACT racist research done purely from an evolutionary perspective and on work and theories believed from decades previous.

I know you won't google it, but here's just one of hundreds of links.
Martin Heidegger's Racialist Friend - Nazi Anthropologist Eugen Fischer - Athenaeum Library of Philosophy


So from a purely foundational viewpoint, no matter what an atheist viewpoint is today, it's history is as colourful and flawed as is alot of religious views of the past. While no one on either side in this forum's debate is being accused of having these extremist views, there is a definite historical attitude which sums up some modern day attitudes which still linger in the dark recesses of society's subconscious throughout the earth.

Enjoy
In Mein Kampf: "Therefore, I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord's Work."

Speech at a Nazi Christmas celebration in 1926: "Christ was the greatest early fighter in the battle against the world enemy, the Jews ... The work that Christ started but could not finish, I -- Adolf Hitler -- will conclude."


In a Reichstag speech in 1938: "I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews, I am fighting for the Lord's work."

Speaking to Gerhard Engel in 1941: "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so."

Enjoy.
 
Old 03-02-2009, 01:10 AM
 
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In Mein Kampf: "Therefore, I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord's Work."

Speech at a Nazi Christmas celebration in 1926: "Christ was the greatest early fighter in the battle against the world enemy, the Jews ... The work that Christ started but could not finish, I -- Adolf Hitler -- will conclude."


In a Reichstag speech in 1938: "I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews, I am fighting for the Lord's work."

Speaking to Gerhard Engel in 1941: "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so."

Enjoy.
Religion and Athesism have gone to bed with each other for years there Hazmat. The Nazi philosophy was the direct result of evolutionary research and nothing from the Bible. Like many of the religionists on this forum, you don't accept or acknowledge the historical dirt behind your present day beliefs. Sorry, but it's your history, not mine.

Maybe it's time to throw that Brown Shirt & Storm Trooper Boots in the trash and learn something other than modern day secularist goose stepping.
 
Old 03-02-2009, 01:36 AM
 
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Religion and Athesism have gone to bed with each other for years there Hazmat. The Nazi philosophy was the direct result of evolutionary research and nothing from the Bible. Like many of the religionists on this forum, you don't accept or acknowledge the historical dirt behind your present day beliefs. Sorry, but it's your history, not mine.

Maybe it's time to throw that Brown Shirt & Storm Trooper Boots in the trash and learn something other than modern day secularist goose stepping.
Repeating it enough times doesn't make it true. Do me a favor and read Mein Kampf. Then get back to me.
 
Old 03-02-2009, 02:21 AM
 
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Religion and Athesism have gone to bed with each other for years there Hazmat. The Nazi philosophy was the direct result of evolutionary research and nothing from the Bible. Like many of the religionists on this forum, you don't accept or acknowledge the historical dirt behind your present day beliefs. Sorry, but it's your history, not mine.

Maybe it's time to throw that Brown Shirt & Storm Trooper Boots in the trash and learn something other than modern day secularist goose stepping.
Every single one of your latest posts is the same. Someone needs to invoke godwins law and get back on topic.
 
Old 03-02-2009, 03:09 AM
 
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Repeating it enough times doesn't make it true. Do me a favor and read Mein Kampf. Then get back to me.
Already have Mein Füherer Haazig! Did it years ago. There are also several other racist scientific genuises who wrote research papers and books who were also put on trial in Nuremberg and I have referenced who they are when pointing the finger at your religious counterparts who taught these Anti-God philosophies from their pulpets. Hitler's book was inspired by Doktor Fischer's race biological studies of evolutionary ascendance of superior species of which Hitler read while he was in prison. Guess he had alot of time on his hands. This gave Hitler the necessary scientific justification for his own racist "worldview" philosophies.

You may also want to check out an infamous Dr Eugen Haagen who was a virologist and did research on the Nazis biological warefare programs during World War II. He was put on trial for his experimentation on human beings. Here are the interesting transcripts from the "Nuremberg Trials" where Dr Haagen is questioned for his participation in the Nazi Scietific Death machine. As with other Nazis, he excuses his participation. He claims he was only making a vaccine for Typhus.

The Mazal Library (http://www.mazal.org/archive/nmt/01/NMT01-T606.htm - broken link) "Extracts From The Testimony of Dr Eugen Haagen"

Dr Eugen Haagen was not convicted of his crimes, but was rather given another I.D. by the United States CIA for the purpose of him furthering their own research back home in the States on biological weapons as were other Nazi Scientists. Most all Nazi and Japanese scientists were excused from war crimes as long as they worked for the USA or other allied countries. However there were mountains of evidence against Haagen from his own official personal letters, as opposed to his lying tesimony. Here's one excerpt.
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"I contacted the central office of SS [the Nazi Protective Squadron] to receive suffient human material from worthless lives for our purpose."
Here's an excerpt from the book, "The Third Reich in Power" , page 259 by Richard J Evans
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The real core in Nazi beliefs lay in the faith Hitler proclaimed in his speech of September 1938 in science - "A Nazi View of Science" - as the basis for action. Science demanded the furtherance of the interests not of God but of the human race, and above all the German race and it's future in a world ruled by ineluctable laws of Darwinian competition between races and individuals. This was the sole criterion of morality, overriding the principles of love and compassion that have always formed such an important element in the beliefs of the world's great religions."
On this forum it is continually pounded into the discussion that religion has nothing to do with science or vice versa. In the above history , this is definitely true. 20th century religious Europe's failure though was supporting these atheistic idealogies. Here's a comment by a David Tyler on the above book and quote:
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"The diagnosis is clear. The Nazis had latched onto Darwinian theories of evolution by natural selection as a scientific justification of their asscendancy claims. They regarded themselves as representatives of the 'fit' humanity and they considered it a 'Law of Nature' that the fittest had the right, not just to survive, but also to promote the demise of the less fit. To the Nazi's, it made perfect sense to pursue a policy of extermination for that part of humanity that had nothing to offer their brave new world."
I continue to be amazed at the attitude that there are two sets of rules here on your side for posting the facts. Your side continues a flaming mission against the other, but the other folks are not allowed to post any facts of your core beliefs and how it's history evolved into the modern day coverup. You revel in the historical misdeeds of the religious and I am on record for supporting every one of them where it warrants it. But then you gloss over, lie and try and hide the truth of evolutionary misdeeds when the tables are turned and exposure of your philosophy's flaws are apparent. Your modern day belief of evolution had it's beginnings in Babylonian, Egyptian and to a greater degree in Greek pagan Mythology, then it morphed or evolved into the late 19th & 20th century hideous idealogies for which the world of mankind suffered greatly and you refuse to acknowledge it. Those same hidden racist beliefs are still prevelant up to our time. The biological and chemical weapons the Mr Atheist Saddam Hussein received came from the United States, who with the help of these afore mentioned scientist, helped develope for them. It's as close as happening yesterday and look at the discusting mess our planet and human society are in as a result.

I would say both Religion and Atheism are running neck and neck in the power grabbing "worldview Derby" and no matter who wins, we all lose.

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Old 03-02-2009, 03:12 AM
 
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Every single one of your latest posts is the same. Someone needs to invoke godwins law and get back on topic.
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I might suggest for your furthered education, you might take as a hands on as a workshop a trip to Dachau, Auschwitz or some other camp and let your senses experience the sights, sounds, smells and tasts of the actual event in question. I did in 1976 outside of München , Germany and I'm going to visit for the first time Sachsenhausen Consentration Camp this July. They have a wealth of information on the scientific research that was done in the name of science and the basis for it was for such scientific dogma.

Trust me, it'll change your "WorldView" forever.

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Old 03-02-2009, 03:28 AM
 
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Only your limited youth prevents you from acknowledging the facts on the foundations of the present worldview. Take the time and research what exactly has led mankind to the cesspool that is presently this world's reality. Dump the video games, avoid the Frat parties and do the homework.
very much appreciated in support of your well researched and expressed posts, bluepacific.
 
Old 03-02-2009, 03:53 AM
 
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Repeating it enough times doesn't make it true. Do me a favor and read Mein Kampf. Then get back to me.
You know how the mentality works:

-Hitler was an atheist
--No he wasn't, he was an avid Catholic
-Yes but Hitler was evil so therefore he was an atheist.....


Mike Godwin came up with "Godwin's rule of Nazi analogies" which states that as time goes on, the probability of a comparison with the Nazi's and Hitler gets bigger. Threads are usually closed soon after.

Godwin's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Reductio ad Hitlerum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 03-02-2009, 06:03 AM
 
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