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Old 03-02-2009, 03:05 PM
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If murder is wrong or not has little effect on what people will do.
One characteristic of being human is the ability to reason.
'Thou shalt not kill' is apparently the commandment that stops us from transgressing.

Why so many theists wish to carry out judicious capital punishment, compared to atheists who tend to argue against such killings seems to defy such an ability to reason.
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Old 03-02-2009, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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'Thou shalt not kill' is apparently the commandment that stops us from transgressing.
Surely you know that there is no such commandment. The wording reads, "Thou shalt not murder." Killing, as occurs during wartime, for example, has never been prohibited.
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Old 03-02-2009, 05:36 PM
 
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I love questions like this, because it challenges thinking and reason.
And it gives me a chance to say "I don't know" and not sound like I am saying "I Dunno"
Culturally, we can trace back to many ancient societies holding a prohibition to killing, but that often included murder and within one's own society and tribe. In addition, we can look at Mesolithic burials and see that there was a ceremony for the dead, indicating that a respect had to exist for the living as well, otherwise there would not have been any emphaiss placed on mourning and the funeral ritual ...SO it may be a very very old concept indeed
Too bad it is not followed today
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Old 03-02-2009, 05:43 PM
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Surely you know that there is no such commandment. The wording reads, "Thou shalt not murder." Killing, as occurs during wartime, for example, has never been prohibited.
That's what gets very amusing about these subjects.

Suddenly you become an expert in hebrew. Not even modern hebrew but the ancient stuff written 2000 years ago.

It's amusing to me.
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Old 03-02-2009, 07:54 PM
 
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That's what gets very amusing about these subjects.

Suddenly you become an expert in hebrew. Not even modern hebrew but the ancient stuff written 2000 years ago.

It's amusing to me.
I don't understand the "amusing" part. In the first place, what do you know about my knowledge of Hebrew (which word is supposed to be capitalized, by the way. The way you spelled it is amusing to me). And in the second place, unless I'm very much mistaken, Scripture was written quite a while back, and most certainly not in modern Hebrew. In fact, it wasn't written in Hebrew at all, but Aramaic.
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:35 AM
 
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What soul? The mythological "soul" doesn't exist. When a person dies, there's no life force or consciousness that continues on, you're just dead. Therefore, your "soul" never evolved and never existed.
On April 24, 1969 I got caught on a 7,400 volt eletrical line. Even though I was laying face down on the ground, I could see things around me that my physical eyes would of been unable to do. Without question, my spiritual body was leaving my physical body, and that was the only reason such a thing could of been possible. Your idea that we are just dead when we die is a false belief. I think the biggest shock for people will be when their body dies, and they find themselves fully intact and moving around. However, an even bigger shock will be when they discover the God they have denied all their life, is real.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I think 7,400 volts would have some very strange effects on the brain, which after all is an organic electrical device. Dead is dead I'm afraid, and it seems that you probably had a narrow escape. Delusions and hallucinations are common occurrences in events such as you describe, so because of you belief you make the experience fit what you already believe. That doesn't make it real.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:47 AM
 
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5 people could even take down a mammoth and eat like kings.
That's pretty far down in the evolutionary process, though. To get there, they'd have to get past the point of worrying about individual survival, and be able to think and plan out something like that.
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:28 AM
 
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I think 7,400 volts would have some very strange effects on the brain, which after all is an organic electrical device. Dead is dead I'm afraid, and it seems that you probably had a narrow escape. Delusions and hallucinations are common occurrences in events such as you describe, so because of you belief you make the experience fit what you already believe. That doesn't make it real.
What I saw was confirmed latter on by those that were there at the time. It was not hallucinations, but confirmed facts. And confirmed facts, do make it real.
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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So we've evolved to more stuff in the self-consciousness athe we truly know less and less about.
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