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04-17-2007, 11:36 PM
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Location: Anywhere but here!
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Originally Posted by LeavingFlorida05
kawgpz550, something can only be considered proof if there is no other way it could be known. Statements that were common knowledge do not prove it's divinity. Statements like how blood is important. That's blatantly obvious. It has been for thousands of years, long before the Bible was written. There are many other claims in your link that are self evident. I'm surprised that they don't claim the fact that the sky is blue is also proof of the Bible.
This author is grasping at straws. The Bible cannot be proven, scientifically. You believe the Bible because of your faith, not logic. There is no logic in faith and no faith in logic. Just accept the fact that your Bible cannot be proven.
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I will accept the fact that some people will not allow proof to sink in when they are so sure of themselves and refuse to acknowledge anything else. I will even accept the fact that there are plenty of people out there that will refuse the Bible and dispute the Bible to all ends of the Earth. However, it is rediculous to think that I would EVER accept the fact (as well as many other Christians on here) that the Bible cannot be proven as it has been so many times. Some people just will not read enough to be proven wrong...therefore we are the ones that are supposed to give in to the argument...um yeah ok 
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04-17-2007, 11:39 PM
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Location: Lake Norman Area
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Things such as DNA is a language code, much too complex to have happened just by chance, and must have been designed. Life tself is much too complex.
Likened to a junk yard, and somehow all of the pieces magically coming together to form a new car.
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04-17-2007, 11:42 PM
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Location: Land of the Roo's
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Originally Posted by irwin
I'm not a Christian and basically agnostic but I seem to remember something from visiting a church one time that went something like, "If the Bible could be proven then there would be no faith."
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Interesting point of view from the church that you heard , cant say ive heard it siad before.  |
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04-17-2007, 11:50 PM
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Location: Lake Norman Area
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The Grand Canyon that was debated earlier was a good example of support for Noahs flood. Most evolutionists believe the Grand Canyon was carved out of the Colorado River.
However it is believed by scientists that the canyons of Mars were created by floods, a planet which has no water. But evolutionists refuse to believe that the Grand Canyon here on Earth was created by floods, a planet full of water. Which shows many evolutionists preconceptions.
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04-17-2007, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Carolina_native
The Grand Canyon that was debated earlier was a good example of support for Noahs flood. Most evolutionists believe the Grand Canyon was carved out of the Colorado River.
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If there was a global flood there would be uniform sediment deposits around the world as evidence that the entire world was underwater. There is no such evidence.
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Originally Posted by Carolina_native
However it is believed by scientists that the canyons of Mars were created by floods, a planet which has no water. But evolutionists refuse to believe that the Grand Canyon here on Earth was created by floods, a planet full of water.
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There is water on Mars. It is frozen in the poles. |
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04-17-2007, 11:59 PM
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Location: Anywhere but here!
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Originally Posted by irwin
I'm not a Christian and basically agnostic but I seem to remember something from visiting a church one time that went something like, "If the Bible could be proven then there would be no faith."
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So basically what you are saying is that no matter what, you will never be able to convince anyone that the Bible is authentic? If you CAN prove the Bible, then there is no faith, therefore Christianity is out the Window. If it CANNOT be proven, what's the sense in believing anyway, because there is no way it can be accurate since there is no basis to believe in it...
Basically a lose/lose situation? Hmmm I don't think so.
I think the biggest problem is that too many people are too over analytical and have to analyze every little thing to the T. This is completely understandable. I am this way every day of my life...EXCEPT: I do have my own questions sometimes, however, I know in my heart there is a God, there is Jesus and His deity and I know that the Bible is authentic. I also believe that there are possibly other books that were written but not put into the Bible...Why? Because you can only make a book so big and I believe some were probably lost/damaged (Like the Dead Sea Scrolls...maybe even possibly the Gospel of Thomas <not 100% sure about that one> and possibly others).
I believe that there are plenty of resources out there to prove the Bible (or at least prove it the best that anything can POSSIBLY be proven) and it's authenticity. If you would take more time and read MORE of the links above, I think you will find almost all of the evolution theory has plenty of holes. And unless you are a bigger better scholar than the ones that this info came from (like the ones that came up with the parallax) then I do not think you are anymore qualified to disprove the Bible than you are qualified to prove evolution (sorry Irwin, I do not mean YOU personally, this is a general statement).
How can one ever prove that someone really loves them? Say your wife/girlfriend tells you she loves you everyday. She cooks, cleans and does all of the other domestic duties a wife should do for her husband etc. However, you really do not know what is in her heart. She could have ulterior motives for pretending she loves you (money, security etc). The point is, you can only go by "faith" that she loves you. You have to BELIEVE she loves you! YOU cannot PROVE that she really does love you!
But even though you cannot 100% beyond the shadow of a doubt prove it, doesn't mean that her love for you doesn't exist!
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04-17-2007, 11:59 PM
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Location: In an illegal immigrant free part of the country.
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When I was in school the teachers taught both evolution and creation. I liked learning about evolution as a young child but I never believed it for a minute. Children should be taught both and encourage critical thought, something missing in the schools today.
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04-18-2007, 12:06 AM
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We believe...
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Originally Posted by spunky1
Really, I find it strange that catholics would not accept that God created the earth in 6 days. ICatholics don't believe the bible?
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Dear Mr/Mrs Spunky1,
Catholics believe in many types of Revelation from GOD...
The Bible being one, but not the only source of GOD'S Revelation.
Science would be another... 
BTW--Feel free to ask additional ??  |
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04-18-2007, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Carolina_native
The Grand Canyon, if it was formed by the Colorado River, should have a huge river delta in the Gulf of California, but it doesnt. Where did all the 800 cubic miles of dirt go?
Is it possible for such a small river to create such a huge canyon? If so, then this should have occurred along much bigger and faster rivers. And why are there so many side canyons, with no water source to erode them, enter the Grand Canyon?
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That's Easy...
The Developers STOLE it and used it for filling in the swamps in Florida... |
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