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Old 04-07-2018, 04:00 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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I'm asking this question regarding any supernatural phenomenon that has ever occurred and by that I would include miracles, extrasensory perception, astral projection, predicting the future, levitation of one's own body or any object, hauntings, ghosts, communicating with the dead, or any other event which appears to defy the laws of physics. This could be something of a religious nature or it could be some human ability that should seemingly be impossible. What I'm looking for is the single strongest case for any supernatural event that has authoritative and legitimate scientific evidence. By that I mean the kind of evidence you could take into a courtroom and present it to a jury and demonstrate that it is factual. Can anyone come up with any supernatural event that can meet that challenge?
You are playing the atheist game of duplicity.
Asking for evidence, then claiming it must be proof.

That's as dishonest as asking for an apple and rejecting it because its not an Orange.
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Old 04-07-2018, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Germany
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You are playing the atheist game of duplicity.
Asking for evidence, then claiming it must be proof.

That's as dishonest as asking for an apple and rejecting it because its not an Orange.
Yes, your straw man is STILL dishonest. The fact you need to do this over and over tells us a lot about your religion.
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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I was referring more to feeling then seeing. This is quite easily testable and most people can do it. Simply go into a quite space with few distractions along with a partner. Then hold ones palms face up and have your partner hold theirs face down about 1 inch above yours, concentrate on your mind on the tactile sensation of your hands and you can feel the fields interacting. As to seeing and interpretation that is a bit out of my league, but here is an article on it.

The Human Energy Field (Trans4mind.com - 404 File Not Found - broken link)
The energy field that comes to mind is heat. Palms an inch apart will most certainly feel the heat of each other.

I've the story of the woman at work sensing another guys pain as he approached, unseen to her and she having no idea he had pain. The second time I was present. She started complaining of a pain in her hip then next thing, in walks this guy, holding his hip. That's when she told me of the first time earlier that morning.
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Old 04-09-2018, 12:54 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I trust you'll agree that Joan of Arc's defeat of the English armies at Orleans ,Patay, etc. were borne sufficient witness to.
That's something history must accept. It's one of those things where Something turns the war around. If (sorry Godwin) Hitler's Ardennes attack had broken the allies, thrown them out of Europe, made America drop out of the war, enabled Japan to win, India declare independence and join the Axis, Italy stay fascist, Spain Join the war, Germany develop the Bomb. God would have been proven to be real.

If Stalin had been a good ex -KGB Russian orthodox believer like Putin the battles of Kursk and Stalingrad would have been miracles of God, not Stalin finally leaving the war to his generals.

Wars, even those won by a rallying Icon like Joan, do not validate the supernatural, much less the divine.
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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You are playing the atheist game of duplicity.
Asking for evidence, then claiming it must be proof.

That's as dishonest as asking for an apple and rejecting it because its not an Orange.
Montanaguy hasn't posted since 2013.
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Old 04-10-2018, 12:12 PM
 
Location: USA
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Resurrection from the dead happens all the time...assuming we are talking about dead internet threads coming back to life.
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Old 04-10-2018, 12:24 PM
 
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I'm asking this question regarding any supernatural phenomenon that has ever occurred and by that I would include miracles, extrasensory perception, astral projection, predicting the future, levitation of one's own body or any object, hauntings, ghosts, communicating with the dead, or any other event which appears to defy the laws of physics. This could be something of a religious nature or it could be some human ability that should seemingly be impossible. What I'm looking for is the single strongest case for any supernatural event that has authoritative and legitimate scientific evidence. By that I mean the kind of evidence you could take into a courtroom and present it to a jury and demonstrate that it is factual. Can anyone come up with any supernatural event that can meet that challenge?
Creation. No other logical explanation for the existence of the universe.
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Old 04-10-2018, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Creation. No other logical explanation for the existence of the universe.
How does creation even remotely become a ligical explanation?

Creation is magic, not logic.
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Old 04-10-2018, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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How does creation even remotely become a ligical explanation?

Creation is magic, not logic.
Fundies don't deal well with inconvenient truths.
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Old 04-10-2018, 03:40 PM
 
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How does creation even remotely become a ligical explanation?

Creation is magic, not logic.
Give a logical alternative.
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