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Very vague? (Why are they not vague when trying to prove Jesus copied the other "saviors"?)
The Messiah will be raised from the dead (resurrected).
The Messiah’s bones will not be broken (a person’s legs were usually broken after being crucified to speed up their death).
The Messiah will be sneered at and mocked.
The Messiah will be pierced through hands and feet.
Men Will Gamble for the Messiah’s clothing.
The Messiah will be betrayed by a friend.
The Messiah will ascend to heaven (at the right hand of God).
The Messiah will be given vinegar and gall to drink.
The Messiah will be a born of a virgin.
The Messiah’s first spiritual work will be in Galilee.
The Messiah will make the blind see, the deaf hear, etc.
The Messiah will be beaten, mocked, and spat upon.
The Messiah will be crucified with criminals.
The Messiah will be born in Bethlehem.
Shall I go on? Doesn't seem very vague to me.
You mean, exactly the way I said the other so-called saviors did? Absolutely.
They were written by those who had met Him. Just because something wasn't written about Him while He was alive does not equal evidence that He didn't exist.
You still haven't given any verses or evidence to back your claim that this is true. The prophecies that are written in the bible don't give convincing truth and they still don't give clear details in order to distinguish it from other events. Also, the unknown writers of the gospels knew the prophecies of the Tanakh, so it is questionable that if Jesus actually existed then they would have known/interacted with him or that if he did exist then he was the being that they describe him as. The first records of such a man's existence were written decades after he supposedly existed. Contemporary writings are what would give more credible evidence that proves he existed. The fact is though that there is no contemporary evidence that Jesus existed.
Maybe...the holy spirit mentioned is the Archangel Gabriel...
i dont think so, similar characteristics.
but that is not the one most of us should be concerned about
there are 3 archangeles,
the one we should be concerned about is archangel michael.
Christians, does any of the following sound familiar to you?
Mithraism anticipated Christianity in all major respects bar one, and enjoyed a ‘reign’ of at least five centuries. It peaked around the year 300 AD when it became the official religion of the empire. At that time, in every town and city, in every military garrison and outpost from Syria to the Scottish frontier, was to be found a Mithraeum and officiating priests of the cult.
Mithras had had twelve followers with whom he had shared a last sacramental meal. The evidence from a mithraeum at Dura Europus suggests members of the congregation and thiasos (sacred company) held a banquet in which eating, drinking and musical performances featured as well as religious ceremonial.
He had sacrificed himself to redeem mankind. Descending into the underworld, he had conquered death and had risen to life again on the third day. The holy day for this sun god was, of course, Sunday (Christians continued to follow the Jewish Sabbath until the fourth century). His many titles included ‘the Truth,’ ‘the Light,’ and ‘the Good Shepherd.’ For those who worshipped him, invoking the name of Mithras healed the sick and worked miracles. Mithras could dispense mercy and grant immortality; to his devotees he offered hope. By drinking his blood and eating his flesh (by proxy, from a slain bull) they too could conquer death. On a Day of Judgement those already dead would be raised back to life.
"Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come"
HOW DO WE BLASPHEME THE HOLY SPIRIT
It does the church no favours to lose believers so they scare them even more by saying that apostates and the like will never be forgiven.
You still haven't given any verses or evidence to back your claim that this is true. The prophecies that are written in the bible don't give convincing truth and they still don't give clear details in order to distinguish it from other events.
Since you waited so long to reply, I can't find the site that I got those prophecies on, but all you have to do is google fulfilled prophecies of Jesus, and you'll have all the scripture you want. I disagree with you, they are very clear and can be distinguished from other events.
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Also, the unknown writers of the gospels knew the prophecies of the Tanakh, so it is questionable that if Jesus actually existed then they would have known/interacted with him or that if he did exist then he was the being that they describe him as.
All of history can be considered questionable. None of us were there.
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The first records of such a man's existence were written decades after he supposedly existed. Contemporary writings are what would give more credible evidence that proves he existed. The fact is though that there is no contemporary evidence that Jesus existed.
I would agree. I just don't agree with you that He never existed.
Christians, does any of the following sound familiar to you?
Mithraism anticipated Christianity in all major respects bar one, and enjoyed a ‘reign’ of at least five centuries. It peaked around the year 300 AD when it became the official religion of the empire. At that time, in every town and city, in every military garrison and outpost from Syria to the Scottish frontier, was to be found a Mithraeum and officiating priests of the cult.
Mithras had had twelve followers with whom he had shared a last sacramental meal. The evidence from a mithraeum at Dura Europus suggests members of the congregation and thiasos (sacred company) held a banquet in which eating, drinking and musical performances featured as well as religious ceremonial.
He had sacrificed himself to redeem mankind. Descending into the underworld, he had conquered death and had risen to life again on the third day. The holy day for this sun god was, of course, Sunday (Christians continued to follow the Jewish Sabbath until the fourth century). His many titles included ‘the Truth,’ ‘the Light,’ and ‘the Good Shepherd.’ For those who worshipped him, invoking the name of Mithras healed the sick and worked miracles. Mithras could dispense mercy and grant immortality; to his devotees he offered hope. By drinking his blood and eating his flesh (by proxy, from a slain bull) they too could conquer death. On a Day of Judgement those already dead would be raised back to life.
That's just one of many religions that Christianity plagiarized ideas from.
Christians, does any of the following sound familiar to you?
Mithraism anticipated Christianity in all major respects bar one, and enjoyed a ‘reign’ of at least five centuries. It peaked around the year 300 AD when it became the official religion of the empire. At that time, in every town and city, in every military garrison and outpost from Syria to the Scottish frontier, was to be found a Mithraeum and officiating priests of the cult.
Mithras had had twelve followers with whom he had shared a last sacramental meal. The evidence from a mithraeum at Dura Europus suggests members of the congregation and thiasos (sacred company) held a banquet in which eating, drinking and musical performances featured as well as religious ceremonial.
He had sacrificed himself to redeem mankind. Descending into the underworld, he had conquered death and had risen to life again on the third day. The holy day for this sun god was, of course, Sunday (Christians continued to follow the Jewish Sabbath until the fourth century). His many titles included ‘the Truth,’ ‘the Light,’ and ‘the Good Shepherd.’ For those who worshipped him, invoking the name of Mithras healed the sick and worked miracles. Mithras could dispense mercy and grant immortality; to his devotees he offered hope. By drinking his blood and eating his flesh (by proxy, from a slain bull) they too could conquer death. On a Day of Judgement those already dead would be raised back to life.
When you read about Mithra from sites that try to debunk Christianity, this is what you find. When you read about it from an unbiased site, or of course, a Christian site, a lot of this is not found.
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