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Yeah, but boys are pressured by society to loose their viriginity as fast as they can, while girls are pressured by society to keep theirs.
When you use the word "pure" to describe the distinction between virgins and non-virgins, it sort of plays into the old double standard. I don't know how it's useful.
But what do you mean by "pure"? And why is being pure better than not being pure?
There's nothing wrong with putting off sex (or, obviously, masturbation) until marriage for either gender. If a double standard exists, it wouldn't be me promoting it.
There's nothing wrong with putting off sex (or, obviously, masturbation) until marriage for either gender. If a double standard exists, it wouldn't be me promoting it.
If a sexual experience achieves the same result--orgasm--as penetrative sex, then it negates your claim to virginity. Virgins do not have orgasms. If you have one, you are no longer a virgin.
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Originally Posted by TKramar
Why not just agree to disagree? You have a definition you accept, but it's not the way I define it.
How can you not see that you just can't randomly decide on what a word means and ignore what the rest of the world thinks it means - I might *want* to call a "chair" a "table", but if I go around telling people to sit down on the table and they then sit on what the rest of the English speaking world understands as a table I can't then go mad telling them they got it wrong!
I didn't have an orgasm until I was in my 30's, but by then I had been having sex for 6 years and had 2 kids! Was I still a virgin?
And what has this got to do with whether it is OK to be homosexual or not?
I guess my Oxford Dictionary is ridiculous. Better write to them and explain your definition so they can adopt it ASAP. I have never met anyone who did not think Virginity was dependent on the lack of sexual intercourse ( defined as penetrative sex).
You seem to mix up sexual experience and Virginity. Two very different concepts. And the reverse is true. A child who has been raped is no longer a Virgin. It is simply a physiological truth. Not a moral statement of worthiness.
As for purity ( innocence or moral goodness according once again to my Oxford Dictionary) it is purely a societal concept , purity to me is something in the mind. I have met prostitutes who were far purer than many fundies on this forum. Losing your virginity does not make you any the less pure.
The concept of sexual purity is the same as racial purity, an authoritarian arbitrary dogma which is used as tool for control over others. Based on nothing but hot air and prejudice. A woman/man who has had sex ( or been raped for example) can still be pure. Moral goodness has nothing to do with sexual experience. Thank goodness for that.
You do seem to have a very odd idea about sex , I must admit I am quite bemused.
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