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Old 05-21-2009, 11:04 AM
 
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Their boddies rotted.
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:13 PM
 
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Anyone who actually believes that people lived for hundreds of years is a little looney really. But it HAS to be true if it is in the KJV bible!
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:01 PM
 
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When you consider the elaborate monuments to rulers in ancient Egypt that are also thousands of years old it would only seem natural that if Noah had actually existed he would have been considered to be a great man and it would have only been natural to have expected an imposing monument to honour him. As you know I don't believe he even existed and is really a fictional character which would explain why we're never going to find his remains.

well, sir, what you term fictional might have been very creative in a more spiritual than materialistic understanding..

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Old 05-21-2009, 02:17 PM
 
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When you consider the elaborate monuments to rulers in ancient Egypt that are also thousands of years old it would only seem natural that if Noah had actually existed he would have been considered to be a great man and it would have only been natural to have expected an imposing monument to honour him. As you know I don't believe he even existed and is really a fictional character which would explain why we're never going to find his remains.
Is it possible that we'll never find his remains because he was eaten by a mountain lion on the 38th day of his boat trip?
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:08 AM
 
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The sepulchers of the prophets and saints

Man in fact is the soul, not the body; the body will disintegrate following death, but the soul will last.

God's religion came to worship and glorify God alone, not to glorify the prophets, saints, sages and imams.

Building of the graves and sepulchers will lead to sanctify them, and people will come to visit these graves and ask their needs from the graves and the dead buried in these graves: while nothing in the grave other than the rotten bones and decayed bodies.

So it is useless to pray to the graves and the dead; because the souls of the righteous went to Paradise (or the Kingdom of heavens), and only the decayed corpses are left on Earth.

And even if the righteous who died is present on Earth, he cannot answer the prayer, but only God alone That answers the prayer and hears the supplication.

For this reason, God hid many graves of the righteous: like Moses, Aaron, Elia or Elijah.

The Disagreement of the (http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com/english2.htm#Comment - broken link)
The Disagreement of the (http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com/english2.htm#death_of_Moses_and_Aaron - broken link)
The Disagreement of the (http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com/english2.htm#Prophet_Elia - broken link)
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:21 AM
 
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For this reason, God hid many graves of the righteous: like Moses, Aaron, Elia or Elijah.
Now there's one I've never heard before and it makes me think you might be trying to dodge the question. Throughout history individuals who were important in society for one reason or another were often buried in something a little more elaborate than a hole in the ground and a wooden tombstone. Noah would have been the single most important human being at the end of his boat ride if he had really existed and it would only seem natural that he would have been honoured as such at his death. The fact is we have no physical evidence whatsoever that the man ever existed in the first place. That's why I brought up this question. Discovering the tomb of Noah would be a very major event in archeology wouldn't it?
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:31 AM
 
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Anyone who actually believes that people lived for hundreds of years is a little looney really. But it HAS to be true if it is in the KJV bible!

In the past, people lived longer life span than the recent poeple lived.
Prior to the Deluge of Noah, they used to live hundreds of years, then following the Deluge, they lived tens of years.

This is about Noah in the Quran 29: 14
وَلَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا نُوحًا إِلَى قَوْمِهِ فَلَبِثَ فِيهِمْ أَلْفَ سَنَةٍ إِلَّا خَمْسِينَ عَامًا فَأَخَذَهُمُ الطُّوفَانُ وَهُمْ ظَالِمُونَ

The explanation:
(We did send Noah to his people, and he tarried among them a thousand years, all but fifty; and the flood overtook them while they were wrong-doers.)


Noah lived for 950 years among his people,
Abraham lived 180 years as I remember,
Moses 120 years as I think,
Mohammed lived 63 years.

The reason for this is that in the past the Earth spinned around itself quicker than it did later on: it became slower and slower as time passes by; because its core became colder and colder gradually as time passes by.

Cause of the Gravitation (http://universeandquran.t35.com/new_page_2.htm#The_Reason_for_the_Rotation_of_the_ Earth_Around_Itself - broken link)_
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Old 05-23-2009, 01:43 PM
 
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The same as happen to other bodies, they decay and return to dust.
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Old 05-23-2009, 02:44 PM
 
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The reason for this is that in the past the Earth spinned around itself quicker than it did later on: it became slower and slower as time passes by; because its core became colder and colder gradually as time passes by.
Two major problems with your explanation. First and most obvious is how exactly would the speed of the rotation of the earth and the temperature of the earth's core impact the length of a lifespan of a human being? The second problem is the fact that if we accepted your theory that would mean that the lifespans should begin decreasing as a predictable rate and that today they should be shorter than they've ever been but they're not. People are living longer now than they ever have. Also, that wouldn't explain why the lifespans would suddenly shift from nearly a thousand years to only over a hundred in such a short amount of time.
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Old 05-23-2009, 05:33 PM
 
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eanassir wrote:

Two major problems with your explanation. First and most obvious is how exactly would the speed of the rotation of the earth and the temperature of the earth's core impact the length of a lifespan of a human being? The second problem is the fact that if we accepted your theory that would mean that the lifespans should begin decreasing as a predictable rate and that today they should be shorter than they've ever been but they're not. People are living longer now than they ever have. Also, that wouldn't explain why the lifespans would suddenly shift from nearly a thousand years to only over a hundred in such a short amount of time.
Actually for his theory to work, the speed of Earth's rotation woudn't matter. What would matter is the speed that it goes around the sun. Since all planets travel at about the same speed as measured from them, this would mean that the Earth would have to be closer to the sun. For human lifespans to be about 10 times what they are now, the Earth would have to be about 36 days. Mercury is the closest planet to the Sun. It has a year of 88 days. The temp on Mercury is between -125 and 585 Celsius--depending on daytime vs. nighttime. Humans would not be able to survive in that envorinment.
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