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aside from Bible quotes, how do we know Jesus was actually dead dead (as opposed to just unconscience or close to death and left for dead). Medicine wasn't all that advanced back then and I don't think they (the "bad guys") bothered to look into it that hard. It possible he was near death (like a coma) but came out of it and when he returned or was found everyone assumed he'd been resurrected when in fact its possible he was never dead? Its possible, we'll never know for sure. But to the uneducated people back then they'd see it as magical and produce all these assumptive tales about it and here we are today.
Most people who have been nailed to a cross will not be found walking around three days later. LOL
Like shouting in a canyon b/c you like the sound of the echoes of your own voice....
Ahaha! Funny! That person was a little overbearing! Like someone else recently whose name I will withhold...but every thread they started started with "DID YOU KNOW?"
with a spear..from someone standing lower than he was, anatomically
even so
the miracle IS he rose from the dead
your going in circles, but again we don't KNOW he died, he may have been near death or unconscious from loss of blood and the pain and left for dead. When he appeared a few days later looking worse for wear most likely, the people assumed he'd risen from the dead. Medicine wasn't very advanced back then, the people in that area weren't overly educated, and the "bad guys" probably didn't take much time to see if he was truly dead or not. Again we just don't know for sure if there was a miracle or if the people of that day and age just assumed it must be so since they thought he was dead, and it all seemed so magical.
Nowadays we can explain things better. People have recovered from near death expereiences and comas, even BEEN legally dead for a few minutes and come back without being called a massiah for their experience. This could be the same sort of thing, but its been blown out of proportion and added to over time.
did Jesus himself ever say or imply that he was going to or that he did die on the cross for the sins of everyone?
Where did that come from? That strange notion that so many Christians are so fond of and attached to?
Who said that? Who implied that? Jesus?
No, Jesus did not say, imply, believe, or teach anything of the sort.
It was invented by humans and "the Church" with their own agenda, nothing to do with God, nothing to do with Jehoshua ben Miriam (aka Jesus).
Jesus came to earth to show humans how to have a relationship with God, not to BE God, not to REPLACE God, not to be worshipped as a God.
Those too are additions and inventions after the fact, added by "the Church" and humans with a political power agenda
Total fabrication, total invention
Jesus wants us to focus on GOD (not on Jesus), and pray to God (not to Jesus).
It's like the sun in the sky. The person pointing at the sun is not the sun. Jesus was pointing at God. He did not ever claim to be God nor did he ever want to be worshipped as a God. When he said he was a son of God, it is in the same way that we are ALL children of God, everyone of us.
No, Jesus did not say, imply, believe, or teach anything of the sort.
It was invented by humans and "the Church" with their own agenda, nothing to do with God, nothing to do with Jehoshua ben Miriam (aka Jesus).
Jesus came to earth to show humans how to have a relationship with God, not to BE God, not to REPLACE God, not to be worshipped as a God.
Those too are additions and inventions after the fact, added by "the Church" and humans with a political power agenda
Total fabrication, total invention
Jesus wants us to focus on GOD (not on Jesus), and pray to God (not to Jesus).
It's like the sun in the sky. The person pointing at the sun is not the sun. Jesus was pointing at God. He did not ever claim to be God nor did he ever want to be worshipped as a God. When he said he was a son of God, it is in the same way that we are ALL children of God, everyone of us.
That's what I have been taught and what I believe. Jesus never once said He was to be worshipped and that He is God. He became like God with all of His attributes by acquiring God's substance, Divine Love. It's blasphemy to worship anyone but God. People who do that will wake up to that realization in the spirit world.
No, Jesus did not say, imply, believe, or teach anything of the sort.
Matthew 26:28
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
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